[Rt4-whois] Definitions of Privacy and Proxy

[Susan Kawaguchi]

Good catch!  Until I read it aloud I did not read it correctly

Do you prefer either of the other two? My point is that we decide on a standard definition

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On Nov 28, 2011, at 9:56 PM, "Seth M Reiss" <seth.reiss at lex-ip.com<mailto:seth.reiss at lex-ip.com>> wrote:

I feel there is a very large problem with adopting the NORC report’s definition of proxy, although I find the NORC report’s definition of privacy service eloquent and accurate.

The problem with the NORC report’s definition of proxy is that it designates the licensee as the “registrant” and in doing so, shifts all legal responsibilities and risks from the retail proxy service onto the hidden licensee.  This definition is unfortunate, and can only lead to confusion and contradiction as we attempt to move forward.

Seth

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Subject: [Rt4-whois] Definitions of Privacy and Proxy


Hello All,



We seem to use varying definitions of privacy and proxy.   I found these two  definitions of both terms in our draft report

In Chapter 4 page 43
u Privacy Services provide the Registrant's Name, but the Privacy Service's contact information. The Privacy Service passes on  non-spam messages to the Registrant, particularly legal notices, acting as a type of “registered agent.”

u Proxy Services register the domain name and license it to another for use.


Chapter 8 Page 80


Privacy services limit certain user details from WHOIS by offering alternate contact information and mail forwarding services, while not actually shielding the user’s identity.

Proxy services have a third-party register domain names on the user’s behalf and then license the use of the domain name so that a third-party’s contact information (and not the licensee’s) is published in WHOIS.

I prefer the definitions from the Sept. 28, 2009 NORC report.

Background

To ensure that the community can identify who is responsible for a domain name, a registered name holder is required to provide and update, as needed, their contact information with their registrar of record. Registrars are required by ICANN to collect and provide free public access to the name of the registered domain name and its name servers and registrar, the date the domain was created and when its registration expires, and the contact information for the Registered Name Holder, the technical contact, and the administrative contact.

In some instances, a registered name holder chooses to limit the amount of personal information that its registrar of record makes available to the public via a Whois query of their database. To do so, a registered name holder generally uses a privacy or proxy registration service. For the purpose of this study, the definitions of privacy and proxy services, as they relate to their use in the domain name system, are as follows:





A privacy service provider offers the registrant an opportunity to register a domain name while concealing some personal identifying information listed in a WHOIS directory, such as his or her address, telephone number, or email address, by providing alternate contact information, often that of the privacy service provider.
A proxy service provider registers the domain name on the registrant’s behalf and then licenses the use of the domain name to the registrant. The contact information in a WHOIS directory for a domain name registered with a proxy service is that of the proxy service provider.

There may be an intentional use of the other definitions that I am not aware of but I feel we should provide an extremely clear definition of each term since they are currently used interchangeably in the marketplace.

Susan

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