[Rt4-whois] WHOIS Policy RT - Law Enforcement comments.

Kathy Kleiman kathy at kathykleiman.com
Wed Nov 30 16:42:10 UTC 2011


Dear Sharon,
Many thanks on this -- and on all of your extensive work with the Whois 
RT.  Much appreciated!
Kathy
p.s. a second on the Sharon's definition below.

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> Emily,
> Happy with this definition:
> Any entity charged or otherwise mandated by governments with enforcing 
> or ensuring observance of or obedience to the law; an organised body 
> of people officially maintained or employed to keep order, prevent or 
> detect crime and enforce the law
> Moving intro to DNS to Appendices good ideas. Alice had the latest 
> version, with Lutz's included.
> Sharon
>
> Sharon LEMON OBE
> Deputy Director
> Cyber and Forensics
> Serious and Organised Crime Agency (SOCA)
> 07768 290902
> 0207 855 2800
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* Emily Taylor [mailto:emily at emilytaylor.eu]
>     *Sent:* 30 November 2011 14:30
>     *To:* LEMON, Sharon
>     *Cc:* rt4-whois at icann.org
>     *Subject:* Re: [Rt4-whois] WHOIS Policy RT - Law Enforcement comments.
>
>     Hi Sharon
>
>     Thanks for working through this.
>
>     Sorry to say it, but I will - I don't think your new version of
>     the law enf. definition will work.  It includes the world and his
>     wife.  Can I have your snap response to the following proposal:
>
>     Any entity charged or otherwise mandated by governments with
>     enforcing or ensuring observance of or obedience to the law; an
>     organised body of people officially maintained or employed to keep
>     order, prevent or detect crime and enforce the law.
>
>
>     Unfortunately, your colleague from Canada was working to quite an
>     old draft, which has been superseded several times over.  I can
>     see the comments, and note what is said about impact.  We have
>     been discussing moving chunks into appendices.  Would the intro to
>     the domain name system be a good candidate?
>
>     Can you give me finalised text for that section, please, which
>     incorporates the latest comments made by Lutz and others - this
>     version seems to be based on an older draft.
>
>     The comments from Gary and others later in the text, and gap
>     analysis are good.  I'd like to see how we can incorporate some of
>     them. At the moment my priorities are to get the bits lining up in
>     the right places, and have the executive summary, findings and
>     recommendations agreed.
>
>     Kind regards
>
>     Emily
>
>     On 30 November 2011 13:48, LEMON, Sharon
>     <sharon.lemon at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk
>     <mailto:sharon.lemon at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk>> wrote:
>
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>         Dear Emily, Alice and All,
>         Sorry for arriving at the party late, I have been watching in
>         awe the hundreds of emails flying about.  We gave until today
>         for our international colleagues to comment and we have just
>         had our own internal meeting to finalise the comments on the
>         paper.
>         The paper complemented our ongoing law enforcement work within
>         the ICANN community and there are not comments of major
>         significance -ours are in green.  I know that Alice is
>         currently going through the nightmare of trying to organise
>         the version control. (Good Luck and thanks Alice).
>         I have replaced the definition of law enforcement with:
>         Any entity with a responsibility to enforce or ensure
>         observance to or obedience of the law, whether mandated by
>         government or otherwise.
>         We could go on forever with this - but let me know if there
>         are any show stopping objections.
>         I hope we make the deadline of 5pm ;-)
>         Sharon
>
>         Sharon LEMON OBE
>         Deputy Director
>         Cyber and Forensics
>         Serious and Organised Crime Agency (SOCA)
>         07768 290902
>         0207 855 2800
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         *From:* KIBBEY, Gary
>         *Sent:* 30 November 2011 13:16
>         *To:* LEMON, Sharon
>         *Subject:* FW: Emailing: WHOIS Policy RT - Draft report - 24
>         Nov - Clean CC GK Comments
>
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>         Gary Kibbey/ Senior Manager
>         Cyber
>         Serious Organised Crime Agency/ Tel +44(0)207 855 2863
>         +44(0)7876790990 <tel:%2B44%280%297876790990>
>         gary.kibbey at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk
>         <mailto:gary.kibbey at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk>
>
>
>         -----Original Message-----
>         *From:* FLAHERTY, Jonathan
>         *Sent:* 29 November 2011 17:54
>         *To:* KIBBEY, Gary; ADDIS, Benedict
>         *Cc:* CURLEY, Cliona
>         *Subject:* RE: Emailing: WHOIS Policy RT - Draft report - 24
>         Nov - Clean CC GK Comments
>
>         *NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED *
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>         My comments added.
>
>         *Jon Flaherty | HVOM | SOCA Cyber & Forensics | 0207 855 2808
>         | 07919 218439 | jonathan.flaherty at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk
>         <mailto:jonathan.flaherty at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk>*
>
>
>             -----Original Message-----
>             *From:* KIBBEY, Gary
>             *Sent:* 29 November 2011 14:34
>             *To:* FLAHERTY, Jonathan; ADDIS, Benedict
>             *Cc:* CURLEY, Cliona
>             *Subject:* FW: Emailing: WHOIS Policy RT - Draft report -
>             24 Nov - Clean CC GK Comments
>
>             *NOT PROTECTIVELY MARKED *
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>             Gents
>             If you have any comments -can you drop onto this working
>             copy. Don't track changes - just comments.
>             Ta
>             Gary
>
>             Gary Kibbey/ Senior Manager
>             Cyber
>             Serious Organised Crime Agency/ Tel +44(0)207 855 2863
>             +44(0)7876790990 <tel:%2B44%280%297876790990>
>             gary.kibbey at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk
>             <mailto:gary.kibbey at soca.x.gsi.gov.uk>
>
>
>             -----Original Message-----
>             *From:* KIBBEY, Gary
>             *Sent:* 29 November 2011 14:31
>             *To:* KIBBEY, Gary
>             *Subject:* Emailing: WHOIS Policy RT - Draft report - 24
>             Nov - Clean CC GK Comments
>
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