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Hi all,

In answer to Seth's question on the proxy recommendations, I don't seem to be able to forward the document I was looking at to you, but it was attached to this email that Emily sent. I hope this helps. You'll see that it first has our recommendation from Dakar, and then leads to Susan et al's proposal with the lead in of 'further, ...' which was the trigger for me thinking about potentially meeting both goals.

While on the recommendations, I wanted to pass my apologies to James. I understand that the privacy changes I mentioned yesterday were put forward by James. I did have trouble opening James' attachments to the list, but should have looked into that further - so sorry about that.

Cheers,

Peter

From: Emily Taylor [mailto:emily at emilytaylor.eu]
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 03:17 AM
To: Susan Kawaguchi <susank at fb.com>
Cc: rt4-whois at icann.org <rt4-whois at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Recommendations - updated language SOURCED

Many thanks Susan.  If you could get the new language out to the list by the top of the hour (ie 40 minutes or so) that would be great.  Please use this version of the document.

On 30 November 2011 15:35, Susan Kawaguchi <susank at fb.com<mailto:susank at fb.com>> wrote:
Hi Emily

I have reviewed the recommendations document and I think once Lutz' recommendation is included  we have captures everything.  On the proxy proposal James had suggested less detail on what the best practices would be.  I can agree with that.

I am currently on my way into the office and can send proposed language at that time.

I have not reviewed the full report after the revisions last night and would like the opportunity to do so

What is the current cut off time?

Susan

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 30, 2011, at 6:54 AM, "Emily Taylor" <emily at emilytaylor.eu<mailto:emily at emilytaylor.eu>> wrote:

Dang!

This document is supposed to contain all of our recommendations.

Thanks Lynn, good catch.  I was intending to put it in and forgot AGAIN.

Trying not to introduce additional language at this late stage Lynn.  Did we already agree a consumer awareness programme recommendation?  I can't find it, but happy to be corrected.

I will re-issue this document with Lutz's draft - Lutz, OK if I tweak some of the language?

On 30 November 2011 14:51, <<mailto:lynn at goodsecurityconsulting.com>lynn at goodsecurityconsulting.com<mailto:lynn at goodsecurityconsulting.com>> wrote:
I made a quick read Emily and have no objections to these recommendations.

Are these just the recommendations with some remaining contention amongst the team members?

I was looking for Lutz's recommendation on a centralized interface for ease of fnding WHOIS data.
Also want to make sure we recommend that ICANN develop and execute an ongoing consumer awareness program.
I will be happy to draft that recommendation.
Lynn

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Subject: [Rt4-whois] Recommendations - updated language SOURCED
From: Emily Taylor <<mailto:emily at emilytaylor.eu>emily at emilytaylor.eu<mailto:emily at emilytaylor.eu>>
Date: Wed, November 30, 2011 9:14 am
To: <mailto:rt4-whois at icann.org> rt4-whois at icann.org<mailto:rt4-whois at icann.org>

Hi all

Following the queries on the list overnight, I have tried as best I can to piece together the language of the recommendations.The documents I checked against were <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/21135832/Findings+-+conclusions+-+definitions.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1319625303000> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/21135832/Findings+-+conclusions+-+definitions.docx?version=1&modificationDate=1319625303000 (Draft Recommendations discussed in Dakar),  and this <https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/21135832/Current+WRT+Recommendations+-+v1+-+Nov+21.doc?version=1&modificationDate=1321978947000> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/21135832/Current+WRT+Recommendations+-+v1+-+Nov+21.doc?version=1&modificationDate=1321978947000 (The first consolidated draft of what was agreed in Dakar, and MdR).

However, like others, I have found it confusing to understand from the multiple drafts posted on the private WIKI, but I do think the draft of 21 November (second link above) is a fair representation of what we as a team negotiated and agreed.

I have gone back to text that we agreed in MdR and Dakar, and tried only to add text in the following circumstances:

- Where the sense was unclear, or we were tasking the wrong people
- Where the text has evolved through consent of the team since Dakar (IDNs and Proxies)
- Where the text has come from another, stable source (compliance recommendation on WDRP).  There, as the author and having received a comment from James on the correct parties to task, I have cleaned up the language.

I hope I have done a fair job on this.

I have noted one place (privacy recs.) where there is contested language.  My proposal - sorry James - is that we revert to our agreed text from Dakar on this.

If I have made mistakes on the source language, I apologise, this is not intentional and I am happy to be corrected.

Please carefully consider these recommendations.  They can be improved, the language could be better, clearer, but they are what we agreed.  Please let me have any show stoppers by 1600 UTC.

Kind regards

Emily

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