[Rt4-whois] Updated Recommendation 14 - Centralized Database

[lynn at goodsecurityconsulting.com]

Thank you Lutz!

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-----Original Message-----
From: "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith at paypal-inc.com>
Sender: rt4-whois-bounces at icann.org
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 17:47:41 
To: Lutz Donnerhacke<lutz at iks-jena.de>
Cc: rt4-whois<rt4-whois at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Rt4-whois] Updated Recommendation 14 - Centralized Database

We're in agreement.

On Nov 30, 2011, at 3:28 PM, Lutz Donnerhacke wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 04:05:53PM -0700, Smith, Bill wrote:
>> This wouldn't solve the proxy problem. It provides a single
>> point of *access* to WHOIS data. What is returned, is whatever
>> resides in "the registry of record". If a privacy or proxy services
>> has been used, they will have inserted some of their own data into
>> that registry. The "grand unified WHOIS service" simply returns that.
> 
> There is no technical solution for social problems.
> 
> By our (RT4) understanding of proxy services, the proxy is a full
> replacement for the registrant, so - in terms of the ICANN policies - the
> proxy *is* the registrant. Therefore the result from the WHOIS is correct.
> 
> By our (RT4) understanding of privacy services, the operator does provider a
> level of indirection between the WHOIS output and the final registrant. If
> there will be an approbriate policy for privacy services sometimes in the
> future, the result from the WHOIS is correct.
> 
> There are recommendations which deals with those problems. The WHOIS results
> itself are unaffected by those recommendations.


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