[Ssr2-review] Fwd: SSR2 Schedule: Abu Dhabi

Don Blumenthal dmb at donblumenthal.com
Tue Oct 31 02:50:37 UTC 2017 

PS to last message. It looks as if there won’t be time to exchange thoughts
before the Tuesday session with SSAC. The corresponding time doesn’t exist
here. 🙂
On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 10:47 PM Don Blumenthal <dmb at donblumenthal.com>
wrote:

> I think that an overview comprised of our subteam structure and progress
> is sufficient background. Beyond that, we need to engage in a discussion of
> how we plan to go forward. I’ll point out that almost any ICANN effort I
> have been part of has participants who don’t care enough to be very
> involved. We need to focus on our critics by focusing on substance of their
> concerns. Any attempt to explain why we have done certain things, or not
> done them, will be pointless. To be trite, there is no point in trying to
> unring a bell.
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> The core issue as I see it, and I know from posts here that others share
> the view, is that we have gone beyond our remit and capabilities. Whether
> true from our standpoint or not, we have heard about it from the Board and
> then SSAC, but fundamentally have done nothing to say that we are
> listening. The problems go both ways. We asked for clarifications when the
> Board first raised concerns in Johannesburg but didn’t receive specifics
> quntil the message that focused on Subteam 2.
>
> We need to show that we are listening. Discuss the concerns about the ToR
> directly. Be prepared to edit our tasks or be specific if we have concerns
> about why we are being told that we have exceeded our remit. One example:
> the letter about Subteam 2 shows an assumption the we plan to conduct an
> audit. As a veteran of 27001 projects and instructor in other regimes, I
> will say that we don’t have the time or professional capabilities to do
> that. What we can is do is isolate items for further study by contracted
> specialists, which is what I thought was the case when the groups prepared
> the tasks. When discussing issues, we also should focus on ones that we can
> do something about. A major SSAC concern is that processes for choosing RT2
> members were not followed correctly.
>
> One additional item to consider in any response, written or in a meeting,
> is that we can’t separate entirely the Board and SSAC with respect to the
> RT2. SSAC includes the Board Chair and probably the most active Board
> liaison. Another Board member has been a semi-regular Observer on calls.
> Some bleed through is inevitable, even if not expressed.
>
> I hope that this message is useful in getting all parties heading in the
> same direction quickly. It’s about time to wrap up in EDT. Naturally, I
> will address any follow up in my morning.
>
> Don
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> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:36 PM Osterweil, Eric via Ssr2-review <
> ssr2-review at icann.org> wrote:
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>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Oct 31, 2017, at 12:30 AM, Boban Krsic <krsic at denic.de> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 31. Oct 2017, at 00:27, Denise Michel <denisemichel at fb.com> wrote:
>>
>> Based on my conversations with some SSAC members they know next to
>> nothing about the SSR2. While I agree the SSAC letter is a priority to
>> discuss with them it’s clear they also need an overview of our work. What
>> do you think of doing an abbreviated overview and spend the bulk of the
>> time on the letter?
>>
>>
>> Sounds good to me.
>>
>>   - Boban.
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>> +1
>>
>> Eric
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>>
>> Denise Michel
>> Sent via phone
>>
>> _____________________________
>> From: ALAIN AINA <aalain at trstech.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2017 12:19 AM
>> Subject: [Ssr2-review] Fwd: SSR2 Schedule: Abu Dhabi
>> To: SSR2 Review Team Email List <ssr2-review at icann.org>
>>
>>
>> Hi Co-chairs and SSR2 team,
>>
>> We have had 2 days of our outreach and community engagement. No  real
>> inputs to our works received, Some questions about the new developments and
>> the letters,  some questions about the SSR1 recommendations implementation
>> gap analysis RFP, some generic questions about the SSR review schedules and
>> the SSR review and ICANN strategic planning…
>>
>> Shouldn’t we review the method in light of the results ?
>>
>> Can we use the 30mn discussion with SSAC to solely discuss their concerns
>>  and possible solutions?
>>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> —Alain
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> *From: *Jennifer Bryce <jennifer.bryce at icann.org>
>> *Subject: **[Ssr2-review] SSR2 Schedule: Abu Dhabi*
>> *Date: *25 October 2017 at 12:22:17 GMT
>> *To: *"ssr2-review at icann.org" <ssr2-review at icann.org>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Here is the latest schedule of SSR2 sessions at ICANN60 in Abu Dhabi. You
>> will have received calendar invites to all of the meetings from Yvette. For
>> those traveling to Abu Dhabi, safe travels and see you there on Friday.
>>
>> *Note all times are GST. *
>>
>> *Friday 27 October *
>>
>>    - 09:00 – 17:30 | SSR2 Review Team Face-to-Face Meeting| Capital
>>    Suite 01 (not on public schedule as prior to ICANN60)
>>
>>
>> *Saturday 28 October*
>>
>>    - 15:15 - 15:45 | At-Large Advisory Committee (ALAC) | Hall A, Sec B.
>>    | http://sched.co/CbJ0
>>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbJ0&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=Xrw9NPXhaM89wV82EWzrl58DU0WtU7aGyY3cpPkn4QA&e=>
>>    - 17:30 - 18:00 | Root Server System Advisory Committee (RSSAC) |
>>    Capital Suite 05 | http://sched.co/CbFT
>>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbFT&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=1VUr8RreLJ10SkzeApdYUjst6ZRZLWFWGojGM_f2gpQ&e=>(invite
>>    to follow)
>>
>>
>> *Sunday 29 October *
>>
>>    - 11:30 - 12:00 | Generic Names Supporting Organization (GNSO) | Hall
>>    B, Sec. B/C | http://sched.co/CbId
>>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbId&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=6GuIsVTucUVGGY1t4nriXM5oLqwy1rKXESiBxh0sl90&e=>
>>    - 13:30 – 15:00 | SSR2 Review Team Community Engagement Session|
>>    Capital Suite 14 | http://sched.co/CbGX
>>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbGX&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=50mBdV0d7gBei64BVat81bsT-wH6Py7qkLZtDErPCy4&e=>
>>    - 15:30 - 16:45 | Address Supporting Organization (ASO) | Capital
>>    Suite 07 | http://sched.co/CbFw
>>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbFw&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=GfbL9OtQC3IYQq2W522rnqPyd9WeEnszwAuM0MuD-P8&e=>
>>
>>
>> *Tuesday 31 October *
>>
>>    - 08:30 - 08:55 | Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) | Hall A, Sec.
>>    B/C | http://sched.co/CbKA
>>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbKA&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=s-bexWIVI-_QN5nE4fBAXzn1wFFDnc0SGaV8zJ5Fnr8&e=>
>>    - 10:35 - 10:55 | Commercial Stakeholder Group (CSG) | Capital Suite
>>    01 | http://sched.co/CbF0
>>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbF0&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=ShtxF0lTn1Vv-cwXwy9hfXlhvkmHZY6OB2YVM-jSu7o&e=>
>>    - 11:30 - 12:00 | Security & Stability Advisory Committee (SSAC) |
>>    Capital Suite 19 | http://sched.co/CbGx
>>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbGx&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=pG1X8GJQSSZ3QVvzwxynhwLcKU2Q3nLQv2tvItBKpgU&e=>
>>    - 14:00 - 14:30 | Not-for-Profit Operational Concerns (NPOC)| Capital
>>    Suite 07 | http://sched.co/CbG3
>>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbG3&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=uSKru3uEzEu-WTmM1Hn0c3liryZ_-uAvxkhbakAU3fs&e=>
>>    - 16:25 - 16:55 | Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) | Capital
>>    Suite 07 | http://sched.co/CbG4
>>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbG4&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=I-LkJm5fl0760He8147AIH6SCf1B8SOUpkw_Gz7Ovcs&e=>
>>
>>
>> *Thursday 2 November *
>>
>>    - 13:45 – 15:00 | SSR2 Review Team Meeting with Board Caucus Group|
>>    Hall A, Sec. B/C | http://sched.co/CbKJ
>>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbKJ&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=IU1hy3IeULo3FSiFzUidP41iJEZ1qY81yvd2hfPDAhs&e=>
>>
>>
>> *Friday 3 November *
>>
>>    - 09:00 – 17:30 | SSR2 Review Team Face-to-Face Meeting| Capital
>>    Suite 01 | http://sched.co/CbF7
>>    <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__sched.co_CbF7&d=DwMFaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=MWVuq3jZIw5gwhGdDf-HWNL4CEWIsdUnt9gOgplCArM&m=vdyYA1MYCijbANpDGePPSCNzuVtSvJuPHj2O8vKZs6k&s=KSkUt1nrsS4IYgPniwvwzabETbBiEotoGAbqIf9ztso&e=>
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Jennifer Bryce*
>> Senior Reviews Coordinator
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>
>> Email: jennifer.bryce at icann.org
>> Skype: jennifer.bryce.icann
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