[SubPro-IRT] Topic 19: Application Queuing

Tue Feb 20 12:18:48 UTC 2024

Good points made by Rubens, Marc and Alexander

How does contention set play into this?

I can't overlook that as we think about the starting of the process of
review on any given application that order of operation is somewhat
irrelevant where contention sets occur.

As I understand it, those have the impact where the entire contention set
gets stuck until the application with the highest of the sets is processed
and/or contention resolution occurs, whichever is sooner.

-Jothan

On Mon, Feb 19, 2024, 9:36 AM trachtenbergm--- via SubPro-IRT <
subpro-irt at icann.org> wrote:

> I agree.  This is overly complicated and unnecessary.  Why use paper
> tickets and have them be purchased?  Is this 1980?  Why not just have the
> applicant elect electronically through the applicant portal whether or not
> they wat to participate in the prioritization draw.  Only certain
> authorized applicant representative have access to the portal so this
> should be both efficient and secure.  I also don’t think we need a live
> draw and can just use some recognized third party provider to conduct the
> draw and then announce the results.
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> Furthermore, and further to what Rubens posted below, purchasing tickets
> could be deemed an illegal lottery under the laws of various US states and
> other countries.  Generally, the elements of an illegal lottery are:
> chance, prize, and consideration, all of which would be present here.
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> So, in sum I think:
>
>    1. No tickets
>    2. Applicants elect to participate in the prioritization draw through
>    the applicant portal by a certain date
>    3. Draw conducted by recognized provider and doesn’t have to be live
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> Best regards,
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> *From:* SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt-bounces at icann.org> *On Behalf Of *Rubens
> Kuhl via SubPro-IRT
> *Sent:* Monday, February 19, 2024 9:28 AM
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> *Subject:* Re: [SubPro-IRT] Topic 19: Application Queuing
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> **EXTERNAL TO GT**
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> Complicating things shouldn't be an implementation goal. From
> https://oag.ca.gov/charities/raffles
> <https://www.google.com/url?q=https://oag.ca.gov/charities/raffles&sa=D&source=docs&ust=1708359932350488&usg=AOvVaw3x9QF84Jb3OHI95hhYPblB>
> :
> "Registration is not required if all tickets for a drawing are free,
> solicitations of voluntary donations to the organization are in no way
> connected to distribution of tickets, and this is made clear to all
> participants. If a "donation" is required in return for a ticket,
> registration is required."
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> So by selling tickets instead of giving them away, org is complicating
> itself and applicants unnecessarily.
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> Rubens
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> Em 16 de fev. de 2024, à(s) 11:22, Rubens Kuhl <rubensk at nic.br> escreveu:
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> Peter,
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> Using a separate ticket drawing was used in 2012 only because AGB foresaw
> Digital Archery. Now that the application will include priority ticket from
> the start, there is no sane reason to do it like this.
>
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> I suggested an alternative in the Google Doc.
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> Rubens
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> Em 16 de fev. de 2024, à(s) 07:38, Peter Eakin <peter.eakin at icann.org>
> escreveu:
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> Dear IRT Members,
>
>
>
> We are pleased to share a link to proposed AGB language on the subject of
> ‘Application Queuing’ for discussion at our meeting on Tuesday, 20 February
> 2024, based on the Board-adopted recommendations included in Topic 19 of
> the Final Report
> <https://gnso.icann.org/sites/default/files/file/field-file-attach/final-report-newgtld-subsequent-procedures-pdp-02feb21-en.pdf#page=86>
> :
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NndHCLSbv8MHmX-jsakfuj2LWRuAolGfherL0eJ-yCw/edit
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> A PDF version of this document and an agenda for Tuesday’s call is a
> vailable here:
> https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=296583198
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> If you have any questions or concerns, or experience difficulties
> accessing the above links, please let us know in advance of the meeting.
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> Thanks and best wishes,
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> Peter
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