[SubPro-IRT] RSP fee

Rubens Kuhl rubensk at nic.br
Mon May 27 16:50:48 UTC 2024


Jothan,

Putting my Marika mask on, what Org said is that it would reduce the application fee. 
By how much is the question, since the actual cost of a technical evaluation is USD 14k, so they could just subtract 14k from 250k and say that the application fee without RSP evaluation is 236k. And it will be hard to challenge that figure, because that’s the actual cost. 



Rubens






> Em 27 de mai. de 2024, à(s) 13:30, Jothan Frakes <jothan at jothan.com> escreveu:
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> Hi Marika
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> I realize we are still expecting some reveals on the pricing for an applicant, but wanted to ask a clarifying question.
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> Is the anticipation that this $92,000 RSP fee would reduce the application fee (ie, est 250k - 92k = est 158k), or is this $92k on top of the est $250k such that a new entrant would be needing to contrast the 2012 round $185k all-inclusive against an estimated $342k all-inclusive?
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> -Jothan
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> Jothan Frakes
> Tel: +1.206-355-0230
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> On Sun, May 26, 2024 at 11:20 PM Marika Konings <marika.konings at icann.org <mailto:marika.konings at icann.org>> wrote:
>> All, as my US colleagues are out today for a US holiday, I thought I would jump in to try and avoid any confusion. The link that Rubens shared is NOT the cost estimate from the 2012 round but for a Material Subcontracting Arrangement (MSA) change. This is an ad-hoc, individual request review. My understanding is that the estimated costs of technical evaluation in 2012 were between $40,000 and $50,000 per application (not per RSP). Regardless, as Gustavo also pointed out on the call, focusing on the difference between 2012 and RSP is to a certain degree comparing apples to pears as per the SubPro recommendations, a separate program has now been created with its own application system as well as RST 2.0, that will evaluate RSPs only once. Gustavo and team will be sharing more details on the cost breakdown of implementing and running RSP as requested by the IRT, but as a reminder, per policy recommendation 6.8, the program is expected to be cost recovery with those seeking evaluation funding RSP.  
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>> Best regards,
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>> From: SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt-bounces at icann.org <mailto:subpro-irt-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Rubens Kuhl via SubPro-IRT <subpro-irt at icann.org <mailto:subpro-irt at icann.org>>
>> Reply-To: Rubens Kuhl <rubensk at nic.br <mailto:rubensk at nic.br>>
>> Date: Sunday, 26 May 2024 at 21:18
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>> Em 26 de mai. de 2024, à(s) 14:26, Hickson, Nigel (DSIT) <nigel.hickson at dsit.gov.uk <mailto:nigel.hickson at dsit.gov.uk>> escreveu:
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>> Good morning; like yourself I was on IRT Call when this came up, but had not appreciated what the cost in 2012 round was; this is indeed a significant increase.  I am sure the GAC will be very concerned as to how this impacts applications from underserved regions.  
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>> Note that this does not applied only in 2012(actually 2014 since this is only charged when a gTLD changes RSPs); this is 2024 current fee to be an RSP for 2012 gTLDs. Org can’t blame inflation on this one, since it’s a comparison of current fees. 
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