[technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom sessions?

Fri Oct 30 13:04:44 UTC 2020

Dear all

SpatialChat seems to be good, but appears to have an upper limit of 50
participants.

With kind regards,

satish

On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 6:15 PM Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> Chris Buckridge from RIPE has mentioned that RIPE 81 used a software
> called "SpacialChat". In his words:
>
> And one final point - we’ve been using Spatialchat during the breaks (and for the “virtual dinner”) at RIPE 81 this week, and it’s been a huge success from my perspective (and what I’ve heard from others) - rock solid system, and a lovely chance to actually “run into” people and chat… it’s not the same as in-person, but it’s a definite step in that direction: https://spatial.chat
>
> It would therefore be good to add this to the shortlist of software that
> TTF could test out.
> Kindest regards,
>
> Olivier
>
> On 21/10/2020 19:24, Trinidad and Tobago Computer Society wrote:
>
> Hello, lots of choices. I'll throw in another one : Hopin
> https://hopin.to/
> Here's the short 85 second teaser video https://youtu.be/EpErMqMyNN4
>
> I attended a online conference (not related to ICANN) and it had several
> features which to me would fit well with ICANN meetings :
>
> - Reception Area where latest updates, links are shared, resources - like
> the lobby of the ICANN meeting
> - main stage where the main sessions will take place - so things like
> welcome session and key plenary sessions, webinars
> - Sessions - the "smaller" sessions so At-Large sessions with NPOC, GAC,
> SSAC, GNSO tracks happening or breakout sessions ; each session can have
> its own chat so you can always have an at-large group chat ; you can have
> "special" sessions so only certain persons will see it and not publicised,
> so maybe the ALAC Excom logged in attendees could have their room to
> strategize, ICANN Staff can have for their internal staff coordination
> - networking - you can directly video chat with any person attending the
> event so when you go for a "coffee" break or want to follow up or meet
> someone, you can or pair up with a conference attendee randomly (or set it
> up like Fellows will be paired with mentors or SMEs)
> - Expo area - vendors can still have their "booths" you can network , you
> click on the booth and participate in the live session with the vendor (so
> you could have a virtual At-Large booth there) or have a on demand video
> played and a vendor chat with participants
> - all the while, there's a main chat which you can hide but then also
> participate in so there's no separate chat channel  ; Organisers and Hosts
> messages in the chat are more clearly identified so you see the staff
> responses faster
> - live polls can be done to get the "temperature of the room"
>
> Here's the 2 min orientation video by the conference organiser of the one
> I attended https://youtu.be/Iqt1Df9Ffgk
> and one which is a much deeper dive of the hopin features :
> https://youtu.be/ikj54geMF8M?t=122
>
> So to me, it really brings the F2F event online in a way which I didn't
> see before.
>
> So definitely this should also be looked at by the TTF
>
> --
> Dev Anand
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 21 Oct 2020 at 07:20, Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Olivier,
>>
>> OK you make a good point.  we will test them, irregardless of what ICANN
>> says.  I will schedule them a couple of them for either the December or the
>> January meeting.
>>
>> Best.
>> Judith
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
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>>
>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:56 AM, Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  Dear Judith,
>>
>> this is the Technology Task Force which tests out *all* technology
>> irrespective of what ICANN decides to approve at the end. Youtube is there
>> to watch sessions more easily and using less resources than Zoom. Remo is
>> for networking outside sessions. So are Gathertown and Virbela. Let's test
>> them out on future TTF meetings?
>> Kindest regards,
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>> On 20/10/2020 19:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
>>
>> HI Raitme,
>>
>> Thanks so much for your comments.  I have heard good things about REMO.
>> However at ICANN we are limited to use the technologies that are approved.
>> We are trying to get some new engagement tools approved and working within
>> the system and hopefully we will succeed.  We did succeed in getting this
>> YouRube pilot at the ICANN meetings and we hope it is a way to watch
>> sessions with less bandwidth interruptions
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Judith
>>
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>> On 10/20/2020 9:07 AM, Raitme Citterio wrote:
>>
>> Greetings to everyone
>>
>> On this interesting point, I would like to comment a little on my
>> experience in some virtual socialization environments
>>
>> A few years ago, second life was an excellent 3d environment for events
>> and interest group socialization, however, this tool is not exactly
>> inclusive for the following reasons
>>
>>  - It requires a bandwidth of at least 10 mb to be able to have a good
>> experience, (this unfortunately is not possible in many regions of the
>> world where they do not even have half this minimum).
>>
>> - requires having a computer almost at a gamer style level, configuration
>> that is usually quite expensive for most.
>>
>> However I would like to share a similar to REMO but simpler and much
>> cheaper to make meetings of more than 25 people for the price works in
>> terms of the amount of time per participant connected.
>> https://gather.town/pricing
>>
>> They also allow to create 2D environments where they have different style
>> pre-configurations (Campus, schools, offices) as well as allowing to create
>> their own configurations.
>>
>> The interesting thing, to my evaluation that allows to create inside that
>> space, interactive elements to promote the virtual collaboration. since it
>> foments the gamification of all the spaces. also it allows to create
>> personal spaces for the assistants. I think that this differentiating
>> factor can be interesting to explore (also has the typical for meetings
>> chat, audio, video)
>>
>> https://gather.town/features
>>
>> Most importantly, you can have spaces for small groups of up to 25 people
>> for free as long as they are used regularly.
>>
>> If some people want I can create a test space for those who wish to enter
>> and test it.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> Raitme Citterio
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>>
>>
>> El lun., 19 de oct. de 2020 a la(s) 06:09, Alfredo Calderon (
>> calderon.alfredo at gmail.com) escribió:
>>
>>> Other organizations have been using VIRBELA - https://www.virbela.com/,
>>> as well. It is just a matter to continue studying the virtues of each
>>> virtual environment and if it really generates a more healthy social
>>> networking scenario.
>>>
>>> The most hardship might come when the bandwidth, technical requirements,
>>> and user- friendly issues are on the table.
>>>
>>> I personally have ha]d the opportunity to participate in mass meetings
>>> and breakout sessions in Second Life, Virbela and Zoom. Which is the Best?
>>> Depends on who manages the system, and what you wish to accomplish.
>>>
>>>    - Recording breakout sessions,
>>>    - Multimedia capabilities,
>>>    - Bandwidth and interoperability standards,
>>>    - equipment requirements and accessibility,
>>>    -  among a few.
>>>
>>> It sounds like a good idea to retake this conversation, and setup some
>>> demos with these companies.
>>>
>>>
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>>> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 5:30 AM DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Friends and Colleagues,
>>>>
>>>> I agree this is an innovative tool but the update of suggestion from
>>>> At-Large many times goes through a process which makes implementation so
>>>> much a challenge to adopt new tools and ideas.
>>>>
>>>> A recommendation can be made and I look forward to the tools being
>>>> tested and implemented.
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, 19 Oct 2020 at 11:16, Jonathan Zuck <
>>>> JZuck at innovatorsnetwork.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Olivier! I brought this tool up some time ago and have
>>>>> mentioned it to ICANN IT. I just thing it will be a loooong road before we
>>>>> get access to such a thing in an official capacity but it IS an innovative
>>>>> tool!
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* ttf <ttf-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org> on behalf of
>>>>> Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <ocl at gih.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, October 19, 2020 4:13 AM
>>>>> *To:* ttf at atlarge-lists.icann.org <ttf at atlarge-lists.icann.org>
>>>>> *Subject:* [technology taskforce] How to network outside Zoom
>>>>> sessions?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>>
>>>>> in today's ALAC Session with the ICANN Board today, Joanna Kulesza
>>>>> explained the negative impact of having virtual ICANN meetings on the
>>>>> At-Large Community, because the essential community building social and
>>>>> networking component part is missing from a virtual meeting.
>>>>> In recent months I have attended several IGFs and the UK IGF used an
>>>>> interesting social event tool called REMO. More details on
>>>>> https://remo.co/
>>>>> A demo video is available on: https://youtu.be/P01JxUBNU2Y
>>>>>
>>>>> I could imagine a break, for example, where each of the tables on the
>>>>> one floor is run by 1 ALAC member. And 3 tables on the other floor are run
>>>>> by a RALO leadership each, and people can move around from table to table.
>>>>> I wonder if this could be fun and helpful?
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps should this be checked out at some point? Perhaps there are
>>>>> other places that can be tested out? SecondLife? Others?
>>>>> Kindest regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Olivier
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