[tz] Australian Timezone Abreviations - Next step

[David Grosz]

The funny thing about these abbreviations is that the regional timezones not included in the Australian Government Website but used in TZ and also on other websites such as www.timeanddate.com is consistent using four character codes as with the Australian Government website for major Australian timezones.  As such, I believe the zimezones in TZ should be updated to be inline with the Australian Government website's use of the abbreviations.  The current abbreviations used for major Australian timezones by TZ are the same abbreviations as timezones used in USA.  Shouldn't each timezone use a unique abbreviation?

Kind Regards,
David Grosz
Sydney, Australia

There are only 10 types of people in the world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

-----Original Message-----
From: Shaun Bouckaert [mailto:shaun.bouckaert at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012 8:27 PM
To: tz at iana.org
Cc: david at dlg.com.au
Subject: Re: [tz] Australian Timezone Abreviations - Next step

The issue with regards to the Australian government's website should be brought up with whomever/whichever department manages that page.
This mailing list is really just for the management of the tzdata database. I agree that it should probably include all Australian timezones though.

It'd be interesting if those timezones are given the correct abbreviations in the database but the primary mainland timezones are still incorrect.

Shaun

On 11 October 2012 19:07, David Grosz <david at dlg.com.au> wrote:
> These timezones should be added to the Australian Government website but they should not be forgotten as to the abbreviations used.  The Lord Howe Island and Eucla timezones are referred to with the abbreviations as I indicated below in the TZ database.  Even the Christmas Island and Cocos Keeling Islands timezones are also included in the Australasia file within TZ.  These abbreviations should be included in this discussion but another topic addressing the Australian Government website should be raised to ensure all timezones are mentioned.
>
> Kind Regards,
> David Grosz
> Sydney, Australia
>
> There are only 10 types of people in the world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shaun Bouckaert [mailto:shaun.bouckaert at gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012 7:47 PM
> To: tz at iana.org
> Cc: david at dlg.com.au
> Subject: Re: [tz] Australian Timezone Abreviations - Next step
>
> This issue has been specifically about the abbreviations for the primary timezones of Australia, those listed on the federal governments website. Is the issue with the timezones you've mentioned the abreviations, or that they aren't distinct timezones in the data?
> If they aren't, but should be, especially in regards to the relevent legislation, perhaps a seperate topic about that should be raised.
>
> Shaun
>
> On 11 October 2012 17:04, David Grosz <david at dlg.com.au> wrote:
>> I've noticed that the timezones for the Eucla region (UTC+08:45/CWST) and Lord Howe Island (UTC+10:30 with 30mins advance for DST/LHST-LHDT) always seem to be neglected in discussion.  The fact that there are official timezones for these areas should mean they are added to the Australian Government website.
>>
>> In addition, should territories such as Christmas Island and Cocos Keeling Islands which are under some sort of Australian control also be added to the list of discussed Australian timezones?
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>> David Grosz
>> Sydney, Australia
>>
>> There are only 10 types of people in the world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: tz-bounces at iana.org [mailto:tz-bounces at iana.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Shaun Bouckaert
>> Sent: Thursday, 11 October 2012 4:40 PM
>> To: tz at iana.org
>> Subject: [tz] Australian Timezone Abreviations - Next step
>>
>> After taking some time off from this issue, I've considered the next logical step to be contacting the relevant government departments in charge of the timezone legislation in each state. As a Queenslander I will start with the Queensland Attorney-General, as the timezone legislation falls under his responsibility.
>>
>> I honestly believe that the only argument for the status quo on this 
>> issue is that it's been this way for a long time. I have previously 
>> presented many good arguments as to why it needs to be updated to 
>> reflect what is widely used amongst government and private 
>> organisations across the country, and what is presented by the 
>> federal government on this page 
>> http://australia.gov.au/about-australia/our-country/time
>>
>> Hopefully, with responses from the relevant state departments, this issue can be resolved and put to bed.
>>
>> Shaun
>>
>>
>