[tz] EU Public Consultation on summertime arrangements

Brian Inglis Brian.Inglis at SystematicSw.ab.ca
Wed Jul 11 17:11:26 UTC 2018

On 2018-07-11 01:07, John Wilcock wrote:
> Le 11/07/2018 à 00:05, Brian Inglis a écrit :
>> Most people are probably not that aware of European geography [...]
> Taking the world as a whole, you are no doubt correct, but most of the people at
> the EU who will be reading Paul's submission will be perfectly aware of European
> geography!
>>> I don't see the relevance of "Schengen area" - all current and potential
>>> Schengen area countries are either EU or EEA/EFTA members.
>> The Schengen Area also includes non-EU/EEA/EFTA countries Monaco, San Marino,
>> and the Vatican, which have not signed the Schengen agreement, but have no
>> borders, so are de facto included.
> While these three countries are indeed de facto within the Schengen area due to
> the lack of border *controls* — they do still have borders ;-) — it still seems
> (at least to me as a European) very odd to mention Schengen purely in order to
> include its *non*-signatories, especially as the next item in the list is in any
> case the all-inclusive "other countries not in the EU".

By the time the EU gets around to doing anything about this, if they do, any of
those signatories may have changed, depending on Brexit, other departures, and
other countries deciding Schengen is or is not such a great idea nowadays e.g.
Hungary, Poland, France de facto (unless they reopened their borders).

As a long time non-resident EU citizen (this year) I try to avoid cultural
baggage on any sides and consider the long term.

Take care. Thanks, Brian Inglis, Calgary, Alberta, Canada

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