[tz] Ecuador time zone list

[David]

Thank you for your reply, Sanghyeon.

>> Alas, yet another rule is "Do not change established names if they
>> only marginally violate the above guidelines. For example, do not
>> change the existing name Europe/Rome to Europe/Milan merely because
>> Milan's population has grown to be somewhat greater than Rome's." I
>> think it is exactly the case here.

I understand your point but it is puzzling to think how outside this 
list Guayaquil has a bigger relationship to Ecuador than Quito for the 
majority of users. I asked several Ecuadorian friends if this is common 
when selecting a time zone because I found it odd, and they were as 
puzzled as me.

I know that someone else raised this on a really old version of Red Hat, 
and I brought it up because it is an issue on Ubuntu. In both operating 
systems they feed from this list upstream and they won't make changes. I 
am pretty sure that this is something that affects a huge variety of OS 
that use this list.

It wasn't and it isn't my intention to convince you to make any changes, 
just merely making you aware of the impact it is having on users. Other 
operating systems allow the selection of Quito and I found it odd, 
that's all.

Thanks again for taking the time to reply.



On 19/09/2022 13:36, Seo Sanghyeon wrote:
> 2022년 9월 19일 (월) 오후 7:22, David via tz <tz at iana.org>님이 작성:
>> The city that is listed for the mainland is Guayaquil, with no mention
>> of the capital Quito. Guayaquil is the second most populous city in
>> Ecuador, but why it is the only city listed is odd.
>>
>> It is akin to choosing Marseilles as the only city for France instead of
>> Paris.
>>
>> Is there any chance of having Quito added?
> 
> https://data.iana.org/time-zones/theory.html explains how tz database
> chooses timezone identifier. It is "Use the most populous among
> locations in a region", so it is not necessarily the capital. If
> Marseilles had more population than Paris, Marseilles would have been
> chosen. In fact, it is Asia/Shanghai, not Asia/Beijing, for the same
> reason.
> 
> Now, Guayaquil seems to be the second most populous city in Ecuador,
> but I think it was more populous than Quito in the past, and even now
> their population is similar. Since another rule is "Among locations
> with similar populations, pick the best-known location", maybe it was
> better to choose Quito, since I think it is better known because it is
> the capital.
> 
> Alas, yet another rule is "Do not change established names if they
> only marginally violate the above guidelines. For example, do not
> change the existing name Europe/Rome to Europe/Milan merely because
> Milan's population has grown to be somewhat greater than Rome's." I
> think it is exactly the case here. For better or worse,
> America/Guayaquil is now established, so it won't be changed to
> America/Quito, even if Quito is now more populous than Guayaquil.
> 
> So no, there is no chance of having Quito added.
>