[UA-discuss] Universal Acceptance now on Wikipedia...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Acceptance

Andrew Sullivan ajs at crankycanuck.ca
Sat Dec 30 18:53:03 UTC 2017

I sincerely hope that linkification of bare domain names does _not_ take 
over, because it gets in the way.  The Internet is bigger than the web, and 
we aim for something too poor if we nail ourselves forever and only to https.


Please excuse my clumbsy thums

On December 30, 2017 6:19:11 AM Andre Schappo <A.Schappo at lboro.ac.uk> wrote:

> Really good to see UA on wikipedia. It feels like UA has made the mainstream.
> 2 suggestions:-
> 1️⃣ In the wikipedia article there are indirect references to 
> https://uasg.tech eg 
> https://uasg.tech/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/UASG-Report-UASG016.pdf I 
> think there should be a direct reference to uasg home page in the wikipedia 
> article ie https://uasg.tech
> 2️⃣ drop the www —  eg in the wikipedia article there is the link 
> https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/universal-acceptance-2012-02-25-en I 
> suggest using 
> https://icann.org/resources/pages/universal-acceptance-2012-02-25-en 
> instead. My experience is that the majority of people think the initial www 
> is necessary but in the majority of web addresses the www is not necessary. 
> My reasoning is that having the www prefix is contrary to IDNs because one 
> then has mixed scripts in an IDN. Take Korea NIC. Their IDN is 
> https://한국인터넷정보센터.한국<https://xn--3e0bx5euxnjje69i70af08bea817g.xn--3e0b707e> 
> They do support 
> https://www.한국인터넷정보센터.한국<https://www.xn--3e0bx5euxnjje69i70af08bea817g.xn--3e0b707e> 
> but they do not make the www necessary and they do not redirect to the www 
> form.
> Now, what I have written is also contradictory because I have used https:// 
> so that my Apple Mail App will linkify. When I put links in my webpages I 
> would only display to users 한국인터넷정보센터.한국 My hope for the future is that 
> linkification will become more sophisticated and be able linkify 
> 한국인터넷정보센터.한국 without the need for www or https:// thus resulting, in this 
> case, a fully korean hangeul domain name.
> So, I suggest the working practice — when possible (which I think is most 
> of the time), drop both the www and https:// when presenting the domain 
> name to end users.
> André Schappo
> On 30 Dec 2017, at 08:15, Don Hollander 
> <don.hollander at icann.org<mailto:don.hollander at icann.org>> wrote:
> A nice way to end a fairly productive year.
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