[UA-discuss] Wording of UASG position on Downgrading [was: Re: Draft Notes - UA at ICANN61 2018-03-22]

[Don Hollander]

Thanks Jim.   Good to get a fresh set of eyes on this.

Let me see if I can re-write this more clearly once we get additional comments.

Don


From: UA-discuss <ua-discuss-bounces at icann.org> On Behalf Of Jim DeLaHunt
Sent: Thursday, 22 March 2018 9:54 AM
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Subject: [UA-discuss] Wording of UASG position on Downgrading [was: Re: Draft Notes - UA at ICANN61 2018-03-22]


Hello, all:

Thank you for the notes from the UASG meeting at ICANN61 sent just now.

I have a question about the wording of the "UASG Position on Downgrading". I don't intend to dispute the substance of the position. I do have a hard time understanding the wording used.

b. The sending system MAY substitute a pre-determined alias in ASCII when it ‘owns’ the mailbox and sending part of the email when it knows a transit will encounter a non-EAI ready email component.

I get lost after the first word "and".  The rest of the sentence seems like two partial sentences spliced together.

If I delete the first clause of the "and" condition, the 'owns' clause, and abbreviate the part about the sending system, it reads:

The …system… MAY substitute… when… and sending part of the email when it knows a transit will encounter a non-EAI ready email component.

I don't understand how to interpret "sending part of the email" as a condition. I don't know how to pare the second use of "when".

Did we mean,

b. The sending system MAY substitute a pre-determined alias in ASCII when sending part of the email if a) it ‘owns’ the mailbox, b) it knows a transit will encounter a non-EAI ready email component.

Also, I don't know if "the mailbox" refers to the destination mailbox, or the sender mailbox. Also, I don't know what it means for a sender to "own" the mailbox.  Does it mean, "sending system has reliable current information about an ASCII-only alternative address for the destination mailbox"?

I'm sorry to get stuck on this. I imagine there was already effort put into this wording. Writing clearly and simply is hard!

Best regards,

       —Jim DeLaHunt, Vancouver, Canada


On 2018-03-21 13:26, Don Hollander wrote:
Please find attached draft notes and actions from the meetings in San Juan earlier this month.

Corrections would be welcome by the beginning of next week.

Thank you.

Don




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