[UA-discuss] question during G20 for Multilingual Internet

[Roberto Gaetano]

+1 Dušan

In an ideal world public statements regarding UA should be done after consultation with the group, and not at random. Moreover, the more important the audience, the more carefully must the statement be crafted.

Cheers,
Roberto


On 13.09.2023, at 12:12, Dusan Stojicevic via UA-discuss <ua-discuss at icann.org<mailto:ua-discuss at icann.org>> wrote:


Dear all,

This Ajay's "big news" makes me a little bit sad and a bit worried. If the question was quoted by Ajay how it was posted on that summit, we have many levels of understanding issues in UASG.
1. question is framed in a manner that someone forbids using other languages in the domain names. With that info, served to the politicians, who are by design unaware of standards and technology, you created a picture that ICANN or at least some Internet body force us to use English. We can argue that it was a valid statement 15 years ago, but now it is completely wrong.
2. there is no 25 percent who speaks English, there is less than that. You can check here -https://myclasstracks.com/how-many-people-speak-english/. Still, this creates false impression that some minority language is forced by ICANN or any Internet body to be used, because we don't expect the politicians to know the history on Internet. Internet was created in the USA, on English language and Latin script, and existed many years before IDNs are introduced and that's why we have Latin script.
3. Using "English language" in the question, instead of "Latin script" (which is used the most in the world -https://www.worldstandards.eu/other/alphabets/) again is targeting political battle between East and West. Do we need to be in that battle, as UASG? Ironically, I presume that this question was asked on English language... Using language instead of script is factually wrong from UASG point of view.

Together, those 3 wrong things in the question creates a dumb image to politicians that English language is forced by the West, through ICANN, which is just a political statement for the sake of West/East battle. And very hard one now in today's geopolitical situation. I would argue that we DON'T need such political statements while we are tending to be apolitical in UASG.
At least, this big news are leading us into wrong direction, and Anil's answer of 5 years of devoted work on this makes me more worried. This question is not something that I would like to be the message of UASG/ICANN and I would be extra careful in today's fragile geopolitical world.

My two cents

Dusan


On 11.9.2023. 17:59, Michele Neylon - Blacknight via UA-discuss wrote:
Ajay

You say the question was raised, but by whom and in what context?

Regards

Michele

--
Mr Michele Neylon
Blacknight Solutions
Hosting, Colocation & Domains
https://www.blacknight.com/
https://blacknight.blog/
Intl. +353 (0) 59  9183072
Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090
Personal blog: https://michele.blog/
Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/
-------------------------------
Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland  Company No.: 370845

I have sent this email at a time that is convenient for me. I do not expect you to respond to it outside of your usual working hours.



_______________________________________________
UA-discuss mailing list
UA-discuss at icann.org<mailto:UA-discuss at icann.org>
https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-discuss
_______________________________________________
By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

[https://s-install.avcdn.net/ipm/preview/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif]<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>      Virus-free.www.avast.com<https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient>
<x-msg://29/#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
_______________________________________________
UA-discuss mailing list
UA-discuss at icann.org<mailto:UA-discuss at icann.org>
https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/ua-discuss
_______________________________________________
By submitting your personal data, you consent to the processing of your personal data for purposes of subscribing to this mailing list accordance with the ICANN Privacy Policy (https://www.icann.org/privacy/policy) and the website Terms of Service (https://www.icann.org/privacy/tos). You can visit the Mailman link above to change your membership status or configuration, including unsubscribing, setting digest-style delivery or disabling delivery altogether (e.g., for a vacation), and so on.

-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: <https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ua-discuss/attachments/20230913/a6255973/attachment.html>