[Ws2-jurisdiction] RES: Welcome to the WS2 Jurisdiction Subgroup!
parminder
parminder at itforchange.net
Tue Aug 23 16:21:44 UTC 2016
On Tuesday 23 August 2016 09:50 PM, parminder wrote:
>
> Dear co-coordinators of the sub group
>
> I dont want to extend your volunteering energies, but is the list of
> members/ observers of this sub group available somewhere. Thanks,
> parminder
>
Sorry, got it. It is at
https://community.icann.org/display/WEIA/Jurisdiction . parminder
>
> On Tuesday 23 August 2016 09:43 PM, parminder wrote:
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>> On Thursday 18 August 2016 11:40 PM, Greg Shatan wrote:
>>> Parminder,
>>>
>>>
>>> 13:00 UTC is 6:00 am in the Pacific Time Zone, which includes the
>>> Western US (e.g., Los Angeles, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle,
>>> Phoenix, etc.) and Canada (e.g., Vancouver). On the other end,
>>> 13:00 UTC is 1 am in New Zealand.
>>
>> Thanks Greg,
>> That certainly is a problem. But so is 1900 UTC which is 1230 past
>> midnight in India, and 1 AM the entire world east of Bangladesh -- Id
>> say a considerably bigger part of the world. I think we need some
>> balancing of perspectives here.
>>
>>>
>>> If we bring in 7:00 am,
>>
>> Sorry, is this UTC?
>>
>> parminder
>>
>>> that takes in the Mountain Time Zone, which also includes a big
>>> swath of the US and Canada (e.g., Denver, Salt Lake City, Edmonton,
>>> Calgary, Winnipeg, etc.) as well as a portion of Central America
>>> (Guatemala, El Salvador, Nicaragua, etc.). If we include 11 pm, that
>>> brings in eastern Australia (e.g., Melbourne, Sydney, etc.)
>>>
>>> Greg
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 2:50 AM, parminder
>>> <parminder at itforchange.net <mailto:parminder at itforchange.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wednesday 17 August 2016 11:40 PM, tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn
>>> <mailto:tijani.benjemaa at topnet.tn> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For the purpose of sharing the inconvenience of difficult time
>>>> for the call, I also accept time rotation.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It will be good to see what are to be called 'off hours' or
>>> 'difficult time' . If it is midnight to say 6 or 7 AM, I am not
>>> sure any participant falls in that period for the 1300 hrs UTC
>>> slot.... But I am just guessing... parminder
>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> *Tijani BEN JEMAA*
>>>>
>>>> Executive Director
>>>>
>>>> Mediterranean Federation of Internet Associations (*FMAI*)
>>>>
>>>> Phone: +216 98 330 114 <tel:%2B216%2098%20330%20114>
>>>>
>>>> +216 52 385 114 <tel:%2B216%2052%20385%20114>
>>>>
>>>> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>
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>>>> Le 17 août 2016 à 18:35, McAuley, David <dmcauley at verisign.com
>>>> <mailto:dmcauley at verisign.com>> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Greg and others for moving this forward.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I personally think that the time should be rotated to allow for
>>>> a fair distribution of the inconvenience of participating in
>>>> off-hours.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David McAuley
>>>>
>>>> International Policy Manager
>>>>
>>>> Verisign Inc.
>>>>
>>>> 703-948-4154 <tel:703-948-4154>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org
>>>> <mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org>
>>>> [mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org
>>>> <mailto:ws2-jurisdiction-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of*
>>>> Greg Shatan
>>>>
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2016 1:30 PM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* Mike Silber
>>>>
>>>> *Cc:* ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org
>>>> <mailto:ws2-jurisdiction at icann.org>
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Ws2-jurisdiction] RES: Welcome to the WS2
>>>> Jurisdiction Subgroup!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your comments to date. We've heard from about a
>>>> half-dozen members so far, and it would be helpful to hear from
>>>> more before fixing a long-term slot or rotation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In my view we need to accommodate our members as best we can,
>>>> so we can do our work; those are the demographics we need to
>>>> deal with. I will note that "Iran and west" includes not only
>>>> NA and EU, but also AF (as pointed out by Mike Silber) and SA,
>>>> as well as the Middle East, Western Asia and portions of
>>>> Central Asia. I will also note that among the 4 respondents
>>>> from "east of Iran" the votes for the 13:00 time slot, there
>>>> were 2 yes votes, 1 if need be and 1 no.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> All that said, this is a decision to be made by the group, and
>>>> as such, the more members' voices heard the better. I'm not
>>>> sure running another doodle poll would help, but I'd rather let
>>>> the discussion go forward first. One shortcoming of polls is
>>>> that they do not allow for dialogue. As such, if there is
>>>> another poll, let's have it after further dialogue, so that the
>>>> participants can keep in mind various viewpoints as they respond.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In the interests of transparency, here are the quantitative
>>>> results from the Doodle poll. I excluded all results involving
>>>> the 05:00 time slot, since there was little support for this
>>>> slot in any configuration.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Greg
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *FIXED TIME VS. ROTATION SURVEY*
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>>>> *MEMBERS ONLY*
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Yes*
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *If Need be*
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *No*
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> 19:00 Fixed Time
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 18
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> 1
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>>>> 4
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>>>> 13:00 Fixed Time
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 10
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>>>> 3
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 10
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>>>> 13/19 Rotation
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>>>> 11
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>>>> 7
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>>>> 5
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>>>> *ALL PARTICIPANTS*
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>>>> * *
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>>>> * *
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>>>> * *
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>>>> 19:00 Fixed Time
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 21
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>>>>
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>>>> 2
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>>>>
>>>> 7
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>>>> 13:00 Fixed Time
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>>>>
>>>> 13
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 12
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> 13/19 Rotation
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>>>>
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>>>> 13
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 9
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 8
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>>>> *TIME OF DAY SURVEY* (Yes : If Need Be : No)
>>>>
>>>> *MEMBERS ONLY*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Monday*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Tuesday*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Wednesday*
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Thursday*
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>>>> *Friday*
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>>>> 19:00
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 20:0:9
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 16:1:11
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>>>>
>>>> 17:1:10
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 17:0:11
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 14:0:14
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>>>> 13:00
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>>>> 10:2:17
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>>>> 17:4:11
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>>>> 14:3:11
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>>>> 14:2:12
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>>>> 15:2:11
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>>>> *ALL PARTICIPANTS*
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>>>> * *
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>>>> * *
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>>>> * *
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>>>> * *
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>>>> * *
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>>>> 19:00
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>>>> 24:2:10
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>>>> 19:3:14
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>>>> 21:2:14
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>>>> 20:0:16
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>>>> 18:1:17
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>>>> 13:00
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>>>> 15:2:19
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>>>> 17:5:14
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>>>> 19:3:14
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>>>> 17:2:17
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>>>> 20:2:14
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>>>> On Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 11:13 AM, Mike Silber
>>>> <silber.mike at gmail.com <mailto:silber.mike at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 17 Aug 2016, at 14:26, Mueller, Milton L <milton at gatech.edu
>>>> <mailto:milton at gatech.edu>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Greg:
>>>>
>>>> I think it makes sense to alternate the meeting time,
>>>> especially if there was something near to a bimodal
>>>> distribution of preferences. While it may be true that a
>>>> (NA-EU) majority finds the 19:00 UTC time most convenient, by
>>>> alternating we can incorporate the preferences of a larger
>>>> segment of the group.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just as aside - AF finds 19:00 convenient too, but it seems the
>>>> thoughts of Africa are not that relevant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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