[Ws2-jurisdiction] [CCWG-ACCT] Jurisdiction Subgroup: Expense Request for Questionnaire Translation
farzaneh badii
farzaneh.badii at gmail.com
Sat Jan 21 09:21:35 UTC 2017
Sorry Seun, I was not clear. I am not suggesting to translate on my
personal level. I am doing too many things at ICANN on my personal level.
I will end up doing it if this group does not support, but I am afraid I
have too much to do and really cannot add to it by translating the
questions and answers.
Translating the questions and answers from English to Farsi and vice versa
has a very justifiable reason. Iran is definitely affected by US sanctions
which might affect their access to domain names and official language of
Iran is Farsi. If any other country's language is not listed as a UN
language but is affected by OFAC and sanctions, that language should be
included too.
We don't even know how many answers we are going to receive how can we
start talking about expenses!
I would not argue it's about a number of people speaking, but the people
who could be affected.
Thanks
Farzaneh
On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 4:10 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
wrote:
> FWIW, I note that Farzeneh offered to translate to Farsi on personal level
> which is fine as it's a separate arrangement (those can be published under
> community translated versions with the appropriate disclaimer). However, I
> will strongly advice against "formerly" going out of the official UN
> languages.
>
> If indeed we want to do that then we should just make a call for people to
> suggest more languages and there shouldn't be any reason to disqualify a
> language by the number of people speaking it. I hope ICANN is ready to foot
> the bills because I will like it be translated to a few languages as well;
> Yoruba, Hausa, and Igbo ;-)
>
> Cheers!
> Sent from my LG G4
> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
>
> On 21 Jan 2017 08:12, "Kavouss Arasteh" <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dear Greg
>> I support Farzaneh for translation into Persian(Farsi) due to the fact
>> that among over 130 Millions speaking that language a very limited are
>> using Other languages than Persian. To have a more wider outreach,as
>> Farzaneh mentioned, the translation would enable more interested persons to
>> comments through their respected communities
>>
>> 2017-01-21 8:10 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Dear Joel,
>>> Thank you very Much for your explanation.
>>> I am quite familiar with translation since decades.
>>> I support Farzaneh for translation into Persian(Farsi) due to the fact
>>> that among over 130 Millions speaking that language a very limited are
>>> using Other languages than Persian. To have a more wider outreach,as
>>> Farzaneh mentioned, the translation would enable more interested persons to
>>> comments through their respected communities
>>> Kavouss
>>>
>>> 2017-01-21 8:04 GMT+01:00 Kavouss Arasteh <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2017-01-21 2:13 GMT+01:00 Joel M Snyder <Joel.Snyder at opus1.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> Kavouss:
>>>>>
>>>>> Each UN agency has its own set of languages. There is not a single
>>>>> "UN official language" set. There are also distinctions between official
>>>>> languages, working languages, and other types of language sets (such as
>>>>> being used for translation to achieve a wider audience for publications).
>>>>>
>>>>> jms
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 1/20/17 5:58 PM, farzaneh badii wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you Greg.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would very much like to translate these questions into Farsi. We
>>>>>> might
>>>>>> be able to reach out to more people and understand if ICANN's
>>>>>> jurisdiction affect the users or not, if the questions are in the
>>>>>> language of those who we suspect might be affected. I could translate
>>>>>> them myself but I have taken up too many tasks and I don't think I
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> get the time to translate the answers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Farzaneh
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 20 Jan 2017 15:50, "Kavouss Arasteh" <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg
>>>>>> UN official lâchage is six.
>>>>>> If there is money , no problem to translate it to Indian 8 over a
>>>>>> billion people speaking and more than US internautes
>>>>>> But I do not under stand other language for translation on the
>>>>>> expense of CCWG.
>>>>>> Those who wish to have translation , they could do it themsleves
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> KAVOUSS .
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2017-01-20 21:21 GMT+01:00 Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com
>>>>>> <mailto:gregshatanipc at gmail.com>>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear Co-Chairs,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At today's meeting of the Jurisdiction Subgroup, the Group
>>>>>> decided to request that the Questionnaire (attached) be
>>>>>> translated by the ICANN Language Service. At a minimum, the
>>>>>> Questionnaire would be translated into the 6 ICANN working
>>>>>> languages; if the ICANN Language Service has the capability to
>>>>>> translate into other languages, it is possible that the
>>>>>> Subgroup
>>>>>> may wish to have the Questionnaire translated into one or more
>>>>>> additional languages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is expected that some costs will be allocated to the CCWG
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> performing this service. Therefore, on behalf of the
>>>>>> Subgroup,
>>>>>> I am seeking your approval to incur the expense of
>>>>>> translation.
>>>>>> These costs are not expected to be material.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please let me know if you have any questions regarding this
>>>>>> request. In any event, I will seek an estimate of time and
>>>>>> costs from Language Services.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you for considering this request.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greg Shatan
>>>>>>
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