[atrt2] Finance template

Jørgen C Abild Andersen jocaan at erst.dk
Wed Oct 2 18:37:18 UTC 2013

Dear Larisa.

I can only echo what Lise has said below. As we have not received any proposals from you and Xavier for concrete changes in our paper based on solid documentation we cannot at this late stage without further discussion in ATRT hold back the final version of the template on ICANN Finances. Moreover I may remind you that you didn't ask for any changes when we discussed the template yesterday. Instead you confirmed my report from the conference call between you, me and Xavier. There was no conclusion about any need for changes in the template coming out of this call. Instead I concluded that the thinking behind the current ICANN initiatives within this field seemed to be very much in line with the thinking behind the proposals in the template on Finances although the proposals in the template to some extent go further than current ICANN initiatives. You confirmed this conclusion upon my request.

Yesterday Brian asked us to submit to you all before COB today a version of the template on Finances reflecting the agreement achieved during the call yesterday (Olivier's remark about including "the end-user" as the one to benefit from lowering ICANN's fees). Please find attached the revised final version of the template on ICANN Finances dated 2 October, 2013.

Best regards

Fra: atrt2-bounces at icann.org [mailto:atrt2-bounces at icann.org] På vegne af Lise Fuhr
Sendt: 2. oktober 2013 17:02
Til: 'Larisa B. Gurnick'; 'ATRT2'
Cc: 'Xavier J. Calvez'
Emne: Re: [atrt2] Finance template

Dear Larisa and Xavier,

I am a bit surprised by your email, since the recommendations have been posted for quite a while and I thought that the conference call with Xavier was to sort this out.

I am a bit unsure of what it is that you want us to change - since we do not have any solid documentation from staff that content of the recommendations are implemented at the moment. We have some ideas that staff are considering to implement what is recommended, but in my opinion this is not enough - we have to ensure that recommendations are taken into account by the board and ICANN staff. The public comments regarding the budget support this.

If there are some of the more specific or prescriptive recommendations that needs to be looked at and maybe determine alternative approaches that would not divert from the intended objectives I am open to find a recommendation that is more operational for you.


Fra: atrt2-bounces at icann.org [mailto:atrt2-bounces at icann.org] På vegne af Larisa B. Gurnick
Sendt: 2. oktober 2013 16:09
Til: ATRT2 (atrt2 at icann.org)
Cc: Xavier J. Calvez
Emne: Re: [atrt2] Finance template

Dear Lise and Jørgen,

Staff has been reviewing the proposed observations and recommendations considered by the ATRT 2 and would like to offer several clarifications.  As you are the ATRT 2 members assigned to complete the analysis and the documentation on various items, staff would appreciate your consideration of the information summarized here.

The ATRT2 draft Finance recommendation communicated to staff includes guiding principles and needs that are generally consistent with those that staff takes into account to evolve the processes and publications towards increased accountability and transparency.  Further consideration will be required, ideally in direct interaction with the relevant members of the ATRT2 team, to determine the possibility to implement or not those provisions of the recommendations that are more specific or prescriptive, and to determine alternative approaches that would not divert from the intended objectives.

Staff appreciates the significant work effort that you and the Review Team have committed to making ongoing improvements in ICANN's accountability and transparency.

Larisa B. Gurnick
Consultant/Senior Director, Organizational Reviews
Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
larisa.gurnick at icann.org<mailto:larisa.gurnick at icann.org>
310 383-8995

From: atrt2-bounces at icann.org<mailto:atrt2-bounces at icann.org> [mailto:atrt2-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Lise Fuhr
Sent: Friday, September 27, 2013 8:57 AM
To: atrt2 at icann.org<mailto:atrt2 at icann.org>
Subject: [atrt2] Finance template

Dear ATRT2,

Jørgen and I hereby send a revised version of the Finance template with the remarks from our meeting in Washington incorporated.
I have more templates to come during the weekend.

Enjoy your Friday
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