[cc-humanrights] draft agenda public session

Wed Sep 30 00:11:11 UTC 2015

Hi everyone,

can we may set back a little here and check the proposed agenda.

my understanding is the session will give an opportunity to present
updates: what was done within the CCWP with the ,under ongoing
consultation, HRIA document and also 2 possibles deliverables aimed for
mapping and indicate where it is possible to intervene. Those kind of
material will help for more awareness and education within the community,
in addition all the reports published lately by Article19.

On other hand, with regard to CCWG we are going to get updates from WP4.
this doesn't mean that we are going to make decision about what is
happening in WP4. as CCWP we can give input and participate in that
discussion within the CCWG. About the HR commitment in bylaw, I don't want
to see that as for and against, we are not setting a oxford style debate
here and we are not going to achieve so much like that. We have also the
CCWP working session where we can plan on how to interact and liaise with
WP4 if needed.

about adding names, I would think we should avoid long list of speaking
heads which leaves little space for real discussion and interaction, with
more entrenched point of views. so maybe we can have the updates first and
the open the floor for discussion. We would invite "pros" and "cons"
instead to join as discussants so we can make the Q&A phase quite
interactive. I acknowledge that is not necessarily optimal neither
thrilling for the invitees but at least we can aim to have a structured
discussion leading to some useful output.

what about this shorten version:

Welcome and Introductions (Niels & Rafik) - 5 minutes

Update on GAC WG on Human Rights and International Law (GAC WG
co-chairs / Lee Hibbard)        - 5 minutes

Update on CCWG WP4 on human rights (Leon Sanchez)       - 5 minutes

Presentation chart (Marilia)    - 10 minutes

Presentation new report on Human Rights Impact assessments and CSR
reporting (Motoko)      - 20 minutes

Q&A: first questions by invited discussants

Best,

Rafik

2015-09-30 3:43 GMT+09:00 Michele Neylon - Blacknight <
michele at blacknight.com>:

> Implementation cannot be in a vacuum
> Unfortunately with the best intentions in the world it gets overlooked..
>
>
> Mr. Michele Neylon
> Blacknight
> http://www.blacknight.irish
> Sent from a small shiny object so excuse fat fingers!
>
> > On 29 Sep 2015, at 19:20, Stephanie Perrin <
> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
> >
> > concerns about implementation is a likely comment.  But lets not drop
> Avri, lets just broaden the discussion to include some who will argue that
> piece.
> > SP
> >
> >> On 2015-09-29 7:59, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
> >> Avri
> >>
> >> Nobody is going to say they don’t support human rights :)
> >>
> >> What they might say is that they have concerns about how this is
> handled …
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Michele
> >>
> >> --
> >> Mr Michele Neylon
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On 29/09/2015 12:57, "cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
> Avri Doria" <cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org on behalf of avri at acm.org>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> good point.
> >>> perhaps replace me with someone from the GNSO who does not support
> human
> >>> rights?
> >>>
> >>> avri
> >>>
> >>>> On 29-Sep-15 05:06, Michele Neylon - Blacknight wrote:
> >>>> Niels > > Just a thought, but wouldn’t it be beneficial to have
> someone who
> >>> wasn’t on your side? > I know there has been pushback on the “human
> >>> rights” issue with respect to CCWG / IANA etc., and having someone from
> >>> that side of the house might be more beneficial. > > Regards > >
> Michele
> >>>>> -- > Mr Michele Neylon > Blacknight Solutions > Hosting, Colocation
> >>> & Domains > http://www.blacknight.host/ > http://blog.blacknight.com/
> >
> >>> http://ceo.hosting/ > Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 > Direct Dial: +353
> >>> (0)59 9183090 > ------------------------------- > Blacknight Internet
> >>> Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty >
> >>> Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland  Company No.: 370845 > > > > > > > >
> >>> On 29/09/2015 00:16, "cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
> >>> Niels ten Oever" <cc-humanrights-bounces at icann.org on behalf of
> >>> niels at article19.org> wrote: >
> >>>> Hello everyone,
> >>>>
> >>>> Please find underneath my proposal for the draft agenda. Looking
> >>>> forward to hear your ideas and criticisms. I was thinking of asking
> >>>> more people to comment, but I'm afraid the number is already quite
> >>>> high. Looking forward to hear what you think.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best,
> >>>>
> >>>> Niels
> >>>>
> >>>> PS I did not confirm anyone yet.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Draft Agenda CCWP HR public session
> >>>> ===================================
> >>>>
> >>>> Welcome and Introductions (Niels & Rafik) - 5 minutes
> >>>>
> >>>> Update on GAC WG on Human Rights and International Law (GAC WG
> >>>> co-chairs / Lee Hibbard)    - 5 minutes
> >>>>
> >>>> Update on CCWG WP4 on human rights (Leon Sanchez)    - 5 minutes
> >>>>
> >>>> Presentation chart (Marilia)    - 10 minutes
> >>>>
> >>>> Presentation new report on Human Rights Impact assessments and CSR
> >>>> reporting (Motoko)    - 20 minutes
> >>>>
> >>>> Comments by Leon Sanchez (Chair CCWG WP4)
> >>>>
> >>>> Comments by Greg Shatan (IPC)
> >>>>
> >>>> Comments by Patrik Falstrom (SSAC)
> >>>>
> >>>> Comments by Avri Doria (GNSO)
> >>>>
> >>>> Comments by Olivier Crepin-Leblond (ALAC)
> >>>>
> >>>> Comments by Wolfgang Kleinwaechter (board)
> >>>>
> >>>> Q&A
> >>>>
> >>>> Summary (Marilia)
> >>>>
> >>>>
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