[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version open internet definition / description

Thu Sep 7 05:38:44 UTC 2017

> Maybe a googledoc or another tool for editing a document as a group?

+1 and i already suggested Erica to consider using google doc for her compiled version that we are expecting today

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> On Sep 7, 2017, at 6:22 AM, Sylvia Cadena <sylvia at apnic.net> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Daniel. I also follow the core values discussion from the distance. 
> 
> I just tried to compile comments into a text that puts them in context for a preamble… it will be great if you could try to add your comments there? It is a bit hard to capture the essence of what people are trying to change, so it might be better if we do it as a collective. 
> 
> Maybe a googledoc or another tool for editing a document as a group?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Sylvia
> 
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> On 7/9/17, 1:56 am, "Daniel Dardailler" <danield at w3.org> wrote:
> 
>    BTW, I have meant to mention it for a while, I participate (from a 
>    distance) in the IGF Dynamic Coalition on Internet Core Values, which 
>    relates to our Open Internet description.
> 
>    It's still work-progress, but you can get a recent listing of those core 
>    values at
> 
>    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1d7pUJzpEBbZPsLLzEaDovlhc4LKAuu8_B4XogIJjG3g/edit
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>    On 2017-09-06 14:43, Daniel Dardailler wrote:
>> Hello Sylvia, all
>> 
>> I like the new definition, but I want to come back to the part that
>> refers to "equally accessible to all people for _all purposes_".
>> 
>> By that core principle, any society where even a few things are
>> forbidden to promote (online or else, produce or relay), such as
>> negationism (the idea that the holocaust didn't happen), terrorism
>> recruitment, etc., would be consider out of the Open Internet.
>> 
>> And more common illegal purposes abound: copying/serving files without
>> rights, fake news, diffamation, etc., and I'm not sure we want to
>> reserve the term Open Internet for an ideal world where everybody is
>> good except for the censors.
>> 
>> Either we have to qualify the "purposes", e.g. "all law-abiding
>> purposes", and shift the responsibility of openness on those making
>> laws, or we need to contextualize "equal access" to transport level
>> neutrality, not looking at content.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2017-09-06 03:00, Sylvia Cadena wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> 
>>> I have checked the document that Marika shared with comments from many
>>> of us and incorporated the last ones made on this thread. I hope the
>>> attached document serves to structure a preamble (as Erika suggested)
>>> in a way that reflects the spirit of the CCWG discussions, and our
>>> intent for the auction proceeds funds to make a difference.
>>> 
>>> Warm regards,
>>> 
>>> Sylvia
>>> 
>>> ————
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> FROM: <ccwg-auctionproceeds-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Judith
>>> Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
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>>> REPLY-TO: Judith Hellerstein <judith at jhellerstein.com>
>>> DATE: Tuesday, 5 September 2017 at 2:17 pm
>>> TO: "ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org" <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>
>>> SUBJECT: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] For your review - updated version
>>> open internet definition / description
>>> 
>>> HI Erika and others,
>>> 
>>> I like Daniel's summary of Open Internet but we need to also address
>>> the issue of accessibility. If you recall Elliott suggested the
>>> following
>>> 
>>> An Internet that is equally accessible to all people for all purposes,
>>> and at every level of the stack. At the lower end of the stack, that
>>> means no impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient,
>>> content, application or type of  data being transmitted.
>>> 
>>> If we could add the concept of accessibility to your definition I
>>> think that would greatly help
>>> 
>>> I also like Sylvia Cadena's text and hope we can figure out a way to
>>> add this to our definition.
>>> 
>>> That means no impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient,
>>> content, application or type of data being transmitted.
> 
> 
>>> 
>>> That means policy and regulation promote, support, facilitate and
>>> guarantee access
>>> 
>>> That means equality of access at a pragmatic level is ensured by
>>> assuring access at prices affordable to all members of society
>>> 
>>> That means training is available about how to manage, operate and how
>>> to use the Internet, as well as education in how to use it effectively
>>> 
>>> 
>>> That means participation on an equal footing at all levels is
>>> encouraged, specially by those that might be discriminated against
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Judith
>>> 
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>>>> On 9/4/2017 7:04 AM, Daniel Dardailler wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> How about this for a start.
>>>> 
>>>> ===
>>>> 
>>>> The concept of “Open Internet”, as referred to in the CCWG
>>>> objectives statement, can be described at many levels, e.g.
>>>> technogical, business, political, etc, and in particular, at the
>>>> societal level:
>>>> 
>>>> An Open Internet is one where all people are empowered to
>>>> contribute and to participate in building a worldwide culture that
>>>> opens our hearts and minds by respecting differences. It is an
>>>> Internet (i.e. a network of networks) that we, the people of the
>>>> world, recognize as ours  — something we have built together for
>>>> one another
>>>> 
>>>> At the technogical level, openness refers to how easily machines can
>>>> connect to each others and how stable, scalable, and secure the
>>>> network is. The IP routing and numbering systems, the DNS, or the
>>>> Open Standard process, have historically been serving an Open
>>>> Internet because of the opportunities they have provided to
>>>> participate, innovate and compete without artificial impediments
>>>> (e.g. patents, walled-garden).
>>>> 
>>>> At the policy level, supporting the Open Internet happens when for
>>>> instance governments put in place regulations that promote, support,
>>>> facilitate and guarantee equal connectivity at prices affordable to
>>>> all members of society, together with education and training efforts
>>>> toward making the next generation more Internet savvy.
>>>> 
>>>> In an ideal world, an Open Internet is one where no control or
>>>> impediments are placed based on the sender, recipient, content,
>>>> application or type of data being transmitted.
>>>> 
>>>> From that broad description, the CCWG has considered the parts of
>>>> the Open Internet that:
>>>> - are aligned with the overall ICANN's mission and core
>>>> commitments
>>>> - are in need of funding for more development support
>>>> - are creating value-added for the Open Internet at large
>>>> - are consensual enough so that they do not endanger the ICANN
>>>> community
>>>> 
>>>> ...
>>>> <and here we need to apply our CCWG "filter" regarding layering,
>>>> shared value, political issues, etc>
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2017-08-31 22:44, Marika Konings wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hereby attached the updated version of the open internet
>>>>> definition /
>>>>> description which incorporates the comments and suggestions that
>>>>> were
>>>>> submitted since the last version. As there are a number of
>>>>> definitions
>>>>> / descriptions that have been put forward so far, are there any
>>>>> volunteers who would like to take a stab at coming up with a draft
>>>>> 
>>>>> that brings the different perspectives together and addresses the
>>>>> different comments and contributions to date which the CCWG could
>>>>> review during its next meeting?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marika
>>>>> 
>>>>> _MARIKA KONINGS_
>>>>> 
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