[Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Judith Hellerstein's comments on the Auction Proceeds Draft

[Elliot Noss]

It is not just John’s personal experience. It is Vanda’s which she share in detail. And mine with CIRA (and my own philanthropy), which I have talked about in detail. And others. I am not sure why you don’t trust the community to deal with this issue appropriately. This is not an abstract. This is us. I do wish we had more face-to-face time to discuss this (and apologies for not being in Marrakech) as there is a subtlety that I think a mailing list is not doing service to.

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> On Jul 27, 2019, at 7:28 AM, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> John, I am not going to critique anything about ISOC creating a foundation. why, wherefore, or amounts, or where the funding source comes from.
> 
> 
> but, my point is we cannot use a single personal experience in the establishment of a foundation as the role model for ICANN. 
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>  Such a recent situation and one that is individual to a particular entity in the technical community does not necessarily present a role model for others, but is a laudable response to a funding opportunity that benefitted ISOC< and where ISOC is creating a foundation to support its core mission. 
> 
> BRAND new. Not a role model. Laudable for ISOC. Excellent! 
> 
> Legal status of "parent" organization: different from ICANN.
> 
> Responsibility of "parent" organization -- VERY different. 
> Incorporation of organization -- Different
> 
> 
> 
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> From: John Levine <johnl at iecc.com <mailto:johnl at iecc.com>>
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2019 10:31 PM
> To: Marilyn Cade <marilynscade at hotmail.com <mailto:marilynscade at hotmail.com>>
> Cc: ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org <mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org> <ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org <mailto:ccwg-auctionproceeds at icann.org>>
> Subject: Re: [Ccwg-auctionproceeds] Judith Hellerstein's comments on the Auction Proceeds Draft
>  
> > Let's not assume anything from our own experience. Count on facts.
> 
> Sorry, but no.  What we did while setting up the ISOC foundation is a 
> fact.  If you don't believe me, there's not much I can do about that.
> 
> Once again, I totally concur with your concerns about the process and 
> possible influence by ICANN staff, but assuptions that creating extra 
> levels of bueracracy in a short term foundation are just that, 
> assumptions.
> 
> R's,
> John
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