[CWG-Stewardship] NTIA's Role in Root Zone Management

Greg Shatan gregshatanipc at gmail.com
Tue Jan 20 21:35:10 UTC 2015

David, unfortunately, I think you are misusing my claim of "uniqueness."  I
go on to say that we should "borrow heavily from the "playbooks" of
existing non-profits and private companies (whether publicly-traded or
not), [but]their solutions will need to be customized (more or less) to
suit our situation."  And as I've stated to Olivier, I think we have a
great deal to learn from corporate governance methods for "for profit"
companies as well as non-profits.  I think Chuck is using Verisign because
he is familiar with it -- not because it is a unique paragon of corporate
accountability.  We can substitute another company from another country
with basically the same result.

These type of non-substantive arguments really take us away from the actual
pros and cons of ideas and proposals.-- that is the real "red herring"
problem to me, and we seem to be accumulating enough red herrings to
open a *Hollandse
nieuwe haring* stand in Amsterdam....

On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 4:23 PM, David Conrad <david.conrad at icann.org>

> Chuck,
> >But I also do not see the value in arguing back and forth with regard to
> >specific organizational failures except to illustrate why the community
> >wants to ensure that ICANN accountability minimizes the risks of those
> >kinds of failures.
> To be honest, given ICANN's uniqueness as mentioned by Greg, I don't see a
> lot of value or relevance in asserting accountability associated with
> Verisign's for-profit company status -- it all seems like a big red
> herring to me.
> >You apparently think that ICANN's accountability measures are sufficient;
> Actually, I have made no such assertion.  As stated, I'm just a technical
> person and all this accountability stuff is beyond me.  What I do object
> to, however, are the statements by yourself, Milton, and others that imply
> that ICANN is operating in an accountability vacuum. I have no doubt
> ICANN's accountability can be improved, but ICANN does have a number of
> accountability measures and besides, isn't that the task of a different
> group?
> Regards,
> -drc
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