[Gnso-bylaws-dt] REMINDER FOR REVIEW: Revised Guidelines for GNSO-ccNSO Joint Consultation on Initiation of a Special IFR 15 July 2019
Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben
wolf-ulrich.knoben at t-online.de
Thu Aug 15 15:10:01 UTC 2019
All,
I very much support Bart's approach to specify the role and scope of the
SICT as well as its embedding within the related GNSO/ccNSO (councils)
processes. It should be able to start working immediately after its
constitution which needs some preparatory work of the councils
(nomination of 2 members).
I wonder wheter we should we should recommend at least to the GNSO
council nominating "stand-by" members or a pool of potentials who could
step in quickly on demand.
Best regards
Wolf-Ulrich
Am 14.08.2019 um 07:40 schrieb Heather Forrest:
> Thanks very much, Bart, for the update. We'll look forward to hearing
> from you with the finished product early next week.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Heather
>
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 1:00 AM Bart Boswinkel
> <bart.boswinkel at icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel at icann.org>> wrote:
>
> Dear Julie, all
>
> Yesterday ( 12 August) the GRC met and discussed the proposed
> Guideline. Based on results of that discussion the GRC asked me to
> updating the redline version you circulated.
>
> The GRC members will be asked to take a look at the updated
> red-line version and inform you and the GNSO drafting team. The
> GRC intends to have finished this iteration by Friday
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Bart
>
> *From: *Julie Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org
> <mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>>
> *Date: *Tuesday, 13 August 2019 at 16:53
> *To: *ccnso-grc <ccnso-grc at icann.org
> <mailto:ccnso-grc at icann.org>>, "gnso-bylaws-dt at icann.org
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> *Cc: *Joke Braeken <joke.braeken at icann.org
> <mailto:joke.braeken at icann.org>>, Kimberly Carlson
> <kimberly.carlson at icann.org <mailto:kimberly.carlson at icann.org>>,
> Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel at icann.org
> <mailto:bart.boswinkel at icann.org>>
> *Subject: *Re: [Gnso-bylaws-dt] REMINDER FOR REVIEW: Revised
> Guidelines for GNSO-ccNSO Joint Consultation on Initiation of a
> Special IFR 15 July 2019
>
> Dear ccNSO GRC and GNSO DT members,
>
> Per the message below, this is a reminder that your review is
> requested not later than this */Friday, 16 August./*
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Julie & Ariel
>
> *From: *Gnso-bylaws-dt <gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Julie
> Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>>
> *Date: *Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 9:52 AM
> *To: *ccnso-grc <ccnso-grc at icann.org
> <mailto:ccnso-grc at icann.org>>, "gnso-bylaws-dt at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt at icann.org>" <gnso-bylaws-dt at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt at icann.org>>
> *Cc: *Joke Braeken <joke.braeken at icann.org
> <mailto:joke.braeken at icann.org>>, Kimberly Carlson
> <kimberly.carlson at icann.org <mailto:kimberly.carlson at icann.org>>,
> Bart Boswinkel <bart.boswinkel at icann.org
> <mailto:bart.boswinkel at icann.org>>
> *Subject: *[Gnso-bylaws-dt] REMINDER FOR REVIEW: Revised
> Guidelines for GNSO-ccNSO Joint Consultation on Initiation of a
> Special IFR 15 July 2019
>
> Dear ccNSO GRC and GNSO DT members,
>
> This is a reminder per the message below that it would be very
> helpful if you could review the draftof the Revised Guidelines for
> GNSO-ccNSO Joint Consultation on Initiation of a Special IFR 15
> July 2019 (15 July 2019)at:
>
> CLEAN VERSION:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OnFqzjkFTJEw0rzvaiBqAKLVnbbli-c_5t9aV2TEt10/edit?usp=sharing
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> */We request that the members of your two groups should review at
> your earliest convenience, but not later than Friday, 16 August,
> the revised version of the guidelines/*. If you have suggested
> edits/comments it will be very helpful if you could include them
> in the*CLEAN*version of the Google document. The REDLINE version
> is primarily for reference.
>
> Thank you very much for your consideration as we finalize these
> guidelines.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Julie & Ariel
>
> Julie Hedlund and Ariel Liang:
>
> *From: *Gnso-bylaws-dt <gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Julie
> Hedlund <julie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>>
> *Date: *Thursday, July 18, 2019 at 6:50 PM
> *To: *ccnso-grc <ccnso-grc at icann.org
> <mailto:ccnso-grc at icann.org>>, "gnso-bylaws-dt at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt at icann.org>" <gnso-bylaws-dt at icann.org
> <mailto:gnso-bylaws-dt at icann.org>>
> *Cc: *Joke Braeken <joke.braeken at icann.org
> <mailto:joke.braeken at icann.org>>, Bart Boswinkel
> <bart.boswinkel at icann.org <mailto:bart.boswinkel at icann.org>>
> *Subject: *[Gnso-bylaws-dt] FOR REVIEW: Revised Guidelines for
> GNSO-ccNSO Joint Consultation on Initiation of a Special IFR 15
> July 2019
>
> Dear ccNSO GRC and GNSO DT members,
>
> The ccNSO GRC and the GNSO DT had a very productive joint meeting
> on Monday, 15 July, to review the questions and consider responses
> to the questions previously identified by the GRC (attached), and
> determine revisions to the guidelines. Thanks to all who were
> available to attend that meeting and to participate.
>
> Per the action itemsbelow from that meeting, please review the
> draftof the Revised Guidelines for GNSO-ccNSO Joint Consultation
> on Initiation of a Special IFR 15 July 2019 (15 July 2019)at:
>
> CLEAN VERSION:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OnFqzjkFTJEw0rzvaiBqAKLVnbbli-c_5t9aV2TEt10/edit?usp=sharing
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> REDLINE VERSION:
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> Please also see Word versions of the clean and redlined documents,
> as well as a list of all draft documents including the current
> versions, on the wiki
> at:https://community.icann.org/display/GBIDT/Templates+and+Guidelines.
>
> GNSO DT Support Staff worked closely with Heather Forrest and
> David McCauley to revise the document to capture the action items
> and discussion in the Google and Word documents. */We request that
> the members of your two groups should review at your earliest
> convenience the revised version of the guidelines/*. If you have
> suggested edits/comments it will be very helpful if you could
> include them in the *CLEAN *version of the Google document. The
> REDLINE version is primarily for reference.
>
> Thank you very much for your consideration as we finalize these
> guidelines.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Julie & Ariel
>
> Julie Hedlund and Ariel Liang
>
> *From: *Joke Braeken <joke.braeken at icann.org
> <mailto:joke.braeken at icann.org>>
> *Date: *Monday, July 15, 2019 at 8:45 AM
> *To: *ccnso-grc <ccnso-grc at icann.org
> <mailto:ccnso-grc at icann.org>>, Julie Hedlund
> <julie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:julie.hedlund at icann.org>>, Ariel
> Liang <ariel.liang at icann.org <mailto:ariel.liang at icann.org>>
> *Subject: *NOTES: GRC | Monday, 15 July 2019 at 12:00 UTC
>
> Hello everyone.
>
> Please find included below the notes and action items the joint
> meeting between the GRC and the GNSO drafting team on Monday, 15
> July 2019 at 12:00 UTC
>
> Best regards,
>
> Joke Braeken
>
> *ACTION ITEMS:*
>
> */Action item #1:/*
>
> Q3. David McAuley to suggest alternative language, with added
> flexibility.
>
> [completed by Julie Hedlund]
>
> */Action item #2:/*
>
> Q5. David McAuley to suggest alternative language
>
> Q5. GNSO staff to verify the guideline to ensure there is a formal
> reference in the guidelines to note that the work is concluded.
>
> */Action item #3:/*
>
> Julie Hedlund to update the guidelines document based on today’s
> discussion, and share the revised text with the GNSO DT, and GRC.
> Incorporate the timing into the guideline document.
>
> */Action item #4:/*
>
> Staff will adjust the timeline to show the maximum and minimum timing
>
> *NOTES:*
>
> 1. *Welcome and roll call*
>
> Attendance will be taken based on who is on Zoom. Apologies
> from: Alyssa Moore. Calls will be recorded and posted on the
> public wiki. Please remember to mute your phones and microphones
> when not speaking.
>
> 2.*Special IFR *
>
> Julie Hedlund: questions from the previous meeting.
> Edits/suggestions in red by David McAuley.
>
> David McAuley: 5 questions displayed on screen. Suggestions by
> David to the GNSO design team.
>
> Q1. when to establish sIFR?
>
> First to PTI Board, then to ICANN CEO and then to the Board.
>
> Q2. GNSO and ccNSO councils working together.
>
> SICT to issue statement, and mention both councils signed off on it.
>
> Support by Heather. Helpful to have guidelines. Flexible timing is
> appreciated.
>
> Q3. even distribution of the work
>
> Suggestion for SICT to keep duties under 5.4 and 5.6 and council
> deals with 5.5. (deciding whether to request a public comment
> period). “The councils may determine that …” More flexibility
> might be needed in the phrasing: avoid being too prescriptive.
>
> */Action item #1:/*
>
> Q3. David McAuley to suggest alternative language, with added
> flexibility.
>
> [completed by Julie Hedlund]
>
> Q4. other avenues to address the PTI issue
>
> Alternative language suggested
>
> Steve Del Bianco: It’s an excellent idea to require consideration
> of alternative means to address an IANA functions problem.
>
> Bart: ICT to suggest to councils to look into alternative means to
> address the issue around PTI performance. When looking at the
> timeline, it becomes an issue.
>
> Q5. closing down SICT if the CSC manages to fix the problem.
>
> No alternative language suggested yet by David.
>
> Bart: close the loop, the process to avoid unclarity on whether to
> proceed or not.
>
> Heather: do we have a formal way of communicating - regardless of
> whether SICT has concluded its work or not?
>
> */Action item #2:/*
>
> Q5. David McAuley to suggest alternative language
>
> Q5. GNSO staff to verify the guideline to ensure there is a formal
> reference in the guidelines to note that the work is concluded.
>
> */Action item #3:/*
>
> Julie Hedlund to update the guidelines document based on today’s
> discussion, and share the revised text with the GNSO DT, and GRC.
> Incorporate the timing into the guideline document.
>
> Bart: speaks to the timeline. Starting point is when CSC sends a
> formal notification of the GNSO and ccNSO councils. In the
> meanwhile the CSC did already some actions under the Remedial
> Action Procedure. Min 10 days before the notification. More
> realistically: 30 days.
>
> During that period, when the Board is informed by the CSC: good
> timing for the coordination group to be established. Do every year
> a reminder. Starting point (day 0): CSC notifies both councils
> (use a template). Review actions: how long this will take is
> determined by internal procedures. 3 weeks, maybe less. Inform the
> Board, and then the Board will call a special review to commence.
> Call for volunteers, run by ICANN Org.
>
> */Action item #4:/*
>
> Staff will adjust the timeline to show the maximum and minimum timing
>
> Next steps: once the update document is being shared, GRC to review.
>
> Absolute minimum: bylaw requirement? Flexibility not to launch a
> public consultation.so you can get rid of 45 days.
>
> Critical part: how long do the councils need?
>
> GNSO staff to share the document by the end of the week.
> Suggestion to conclude the work by the end of August.
>
> 3.*AOB*
>
> 4.*Closure*
>
> Thank you all.
>
> Joke Braeken
>
> ccNSO Policy Advisor
>
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