[Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Thick Whois Transition Policy draft v4

Dennis Chang dennis.chang at icann.org
Tue Sep 27 17:40:27 UTC 2016


I should have addressed my email to Marc, not Theo
Either way, I hope to see you soon in the AC Room.

Thanks
Dennis Chang

From: theo geurts <gtheo at xs4all.nl>
Date: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 10:20 AM
To: Dennis Chang <dennis.chang at icann.org>, "Anderson, Marc" <mcanderson at verisign.com>, "gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt at icann.org" <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Thick Whois Transition Policy draft v4


I was wondering why Dennis was putting things for me on the agenda and asking me to suggest language :)

Anyways, perhaps Marc and the rest of the IRT can agree with what I just sent and either discuss it or wait till folks I mentioned weigh in before we go discuss 2.2?

Theo



On 27-9-2016 19:13, theo geurts wrote:
Hi Dennis,
Maybe we are going the wrong way here and we mixing things.

We discussed the alternative because it came up during a discussion within the RrSG. And I think Jennifer Gore mentioned this on the list.
Now I think, but Chris Pelling can most likely bring some clarity here on why he proposed to use the RDE data for the migration, and I think but I am not sure, his reasoning was to speed things up. But I will let Chris weigh in on that one.

But if that is the case and combine the fact that we also said not to use the RDE deposit approach as an alternative bulk method then we might want to backtrack on this alternative approach altogether.

I cannot come up with a good argument that justifies an alternative bulk method while the Registrar in question has to make the EPP modifications anyways (May 2018). But perhaps Jennifer can weigh in on this? I have a feeling that we are mixing a few conversations and emails into requirements for no good reason.

Theo


On 27-9-2016 17:12, Dennis Chang wrote:
Theo,

I’ll be sure to add to the agenda.
For Section 2.2, if you could provide suggested language before the meeting, I can have it for the IRT to review as well.

Thanks
Dennis Chang

From: "Anderson, Marc" <mcanderson at verisign.com><mailto:mcanderson at verisign.com>
Date: Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 8:07 AM
To: Dennis Chang <dennis.chang at icann.org><mailto:dennis.chang at icann.org>, "gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt at icann.org"<mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt at icann.org> <gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt at icann.org><mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt at icann.org>
Subject: RE: Thick Whois Transition Policy draft v4

Dennis,

Thank you for sending out this updated version.  In preparation for our upcoming call I have a couple items.


·         Section 2.2 pertains to Registries providing an (alternative) bulk method for the backfill of contact data.  I’d like to propose an update to the language in this section.  Could I have some time during the meeting to present?



·         At the last meeting I brought up the billing contact and agreed to propose clarifying language.  I suggest adding a section 2.11 that states:


The “Billing” contact is optional.  Registry Policy may define if it is required, optional or not supported.  If supported the Billing contact information must be displayed as described in the “Advisory: Clarifications to the Registry Agreement, and the 2013 Registrar Accreditation Agreement (RAA) regarding applicable Registration Data Directory Service (Whois) Specifications” (section 22).

I’d also like to get the IRT’s thoughts on the Billing contact in general.  My sense is that no one is really concerned if the billing contact is present or not and that in order to facilitate the transition from thin to thick it would be easiest to not include it.


·         Finally, can we add an agenda item to talk about Escrow of contact data?  It was a topic considered during the PDP deliberations but we haven’t touched on it as part of the IRT deliberations.


Thank you,
Marc Anderson


From: gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces at icann.org> [mailto:gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt-bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Dennis Chang
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Subject: [Gnso-impl-thickwhois-rt] Thick Whois Transition Policy draft v4

Dear Thick Whois IRT,

Attached are the Transition Policy drafts from our review this week.  A clean and redlined provided for your further review.

Three key updates are

1)       Adapted the alternate definition of Thick

2)       Incorporated the requirements to the body of policy per sections rather than the definition

3)       Removed sections referring to RDAP

Please provide your comments prior to the meeting if possible so that we may continue to discuss on line and prepare better for the team meeting next week.

Agenda for the next meeting will be provided to you in a separate email which you may also comment on.

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Kind Regards,
Dennis S. Chang
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