[gnso-improvem-impl-sc] MP3 recording of the SCI meeting - 22 July 2014

Terri Agnew terri.agnew at icann.org
Tue Jul 22 21:59:34 UTC 2014

Dear All,

Please find the MP3 recording of the Standing Committee on Improvements
Implementation meeting held on Tuesday, 22 July 2014 at 19:00 UTC.


On page:

 <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jul> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/#jul

(transcripts and recording are found on the calendar page)



Ronald Andruff - Commercial and Business Users Constituency - Primary -

Greg Shatan - IPC - Alternate

Thomas Rickert - Nominating Committee Appointee - Alternate

Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPs and connectivity providers Constituency (ISPCP) -
Primary Member

Avri Doria - Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG) - Primary Member

Cintra Sooknanan (Vice-Chair) - Not-for-Profit Organizations Constituency -
NPOC Constituency - Primary Member

Lori Schulman - Not-for-Profit Organizations Constituency - NPOC
Constituency - Alternate

Amr Elsadr - Non-Commercial Users Constituency (NCUC) - Primary Member


Jen Wolfe - Nominating Committee Appointee


ICANN Staff:
Mary Wong

Julie Hedlund

Glen de Saint Gery

Terri Agnew


** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thank you.

Kind regards,


Terri Agnew


Adobe Chat Transcript 22 July 2014

Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the SCI meeting on the 22nd July 2014 at
19:00 UTC

  Ron A:Hello all, I just noted that we will be getting started at 3:04 EDT
to all for any late comers.

  Ron A:all = allow

  Cintra Sooknanan:3.04 very precise

  Mary Wong:FYI Ron, I didn't get any notifications of absences/apologies;
not sure if Julie or Terri or the Secretariat did ...

  Amr Elsadr:Hi. Just Dialled in. Apologies about the prolonged absence.
Hope you're all well.

  Mary Wong:Welcome back Amr!

  Amr Elsadr:Thnx Mary. ;-)

  Mary Wong:Hope you (and everyone else on the call, of course) are well.

  Amr Elsadr:That IS bad news. :(

  Amr Elsadr:Thnx Ron. :-)

  Julie Hedlund:All -- I have unsynced the document that is being displayed.

  Terri Agnew:Lori Schulman has joined

  Lori Schulman:My apologies for the late arrival.

  Cintra Sooknanan:I am happy with the text suggested

  Ron A:Welcome Lori.

  Amr Elsadr:@Greg: True. Just saying IF the need arises, it will be
problematic. The conditions for a resubmitted motion are quite clear.

  Greg Shatan:@Amr: I think its a problem that could and should be
anticipated by the resubmitters.

  Amr Elsadr:Yes..., which is why it should be clarified when submitting the
suggested language to the Council.

  Greg Shatan:Agree it can be noted in the submission.

  Mary Wong:@Greg, agreed. And to the extent there is that overlap, the
provision does have a safeguard in the need for a unanimous vote to allow

  Greg Shatan:I missed the call.  :-(

  Amr Elsadr:The language suggeste exceptional basis to me.

  Amr Elsadr:*suggests

  Mary Wong:That was my takeaway as well, Ron.

  Amr Elsadr:There have actually been irregularly scheduled council meetings
in which votes have taken place.

  Amr Elsadr:@Mary: +1

  Mary Wong:Or how about taking out "for inclusion on the agenda for a
regularly scheduled GNSO Council meeting" so that it just reads "submitted
in accordance with these Op Procs"?

  Lori Schulman:You use "regularly scheduled" in Section 2, bullet 3.

  Mary Wong:That's true

  Amr Elsadr:I think the context is different in those bullets.

  Amr Elsadr:as well as in 1 bullet 3.

  Amr Elsadr:@Greg: +1

  Lori Schulman:Then maybe define "regularly scheduled"?

  Lori Schulman:It might be confusing.

  Lori Schulman:No intention to wreak havoc.

  Amr Elsadr:@Greg: Isn't this beyond the scope of this issue?

  Amr Elsadr:We're talking about email voting here.

  Mary Wong:@Avri, that is correct (as to why the phrase is being used

  Mary Wong:No worries, Ron :)

  Mary Wong:This language will permit the Council to have a special meeting
but not necessarily take a live vote at that special meeting (for some good

  Mary Wong:In that, they can do an e-vote after the special meeting but
perhaps before the next "regularly scheduled" Council meeting, ie more

  Mary Wong:@Greg, that is correct.

  Mary Wong:Though I'd advise leaving it in for the first sentence - it
doesn't add confusion but reflects the usage elsewhere so prob no harm
leaving it in?

  Amr Elsadr:I'm sorry. I don't understand why we need to take them out of
these three sentances. They seem relevant to me.

  Greg Shatan:We're only suggesting taking them out of Section 5.  Leaving
them in elsewhere.

  Lori Schulman:There is static.  Can't hear.

  Terri Agnew:You are breaking up

  Mary Wong:Amr sounds like he's in a high wind ...

  Amr Elsadr:Not here, but I hear it too.

  Terri Agnew:We are trying to find the line causing noise

  Lori Schulman:HIgh wind sound for sure.

  Greg Shatan:It stopped.

  Greg Shatan:And it's back.

  Lori Schulman:I understand as removing it from second sentence in %.

  Lori Schulman:5

  Greg Shatan:The Wind Cries Mary.

  Lori Schulman:Wait, in actions, Mary just typed take out "regularly
scheduled" in the 2 instances.  I thought we said the second instance.

  Julie Hedlund:@Lori -- I wrote that because that is what I thought I heard
Ron say.

  Greg Shatan:I had suggested both instances in 5.

  Greg Shatan:That is what Ron said....

  Lori Schulman:I think it makes sense in the first instance but not the
second.  The second instance is where removal gives the GNSO more

  Amr Elsadr:From a technical perspective, I'm curious how the ability to
submit comments along with the ballots would be done.

  Lori Schulman:I mean leave it in in the first instance. Remove in second.

  Ron A:Yes, Lori.  more flexibility is what this particular issue is about.

  Lori Schulman:Then the first instance distinguishes between "outside" and
regularly scheduled meetings and should stay in for clarity.  

  Lori Schulman:The second instance is what should be removed for
flexiblity.  At least, that is how I understand it.

  Avri Doria:btw, i have never been white water rafting, but after this
meeting i realize i need to add it to my list of things to do.  i mean i
said it twice.

  Lori Schulman:I think I see.

  Lori Schulman:Sorry Julie.

  Lori Schulman:Just trying to keep up.

  Greg Shatan:I move that we all go white water rafting.

  Mary Wong::)

  Julie Hedlund:Sounds fun!

  Lori Schulman:Does that mean we are  up the creek without a paddle?

  Mary Wong:LOL, Lori!

  Cintra Sooknanan:5 August

  Julie Hedlund:Thank you everyone!

  Cintra Sooknanan:Thanks, Good bye

  Amr Elsadr:Thanks everyone. Bye.

  Ron A:Thanks all!  Enjoy your summer!

  Lori Schulman:Have fun!   I will be in the woods...rafting for real in
West Virginia.

  Ron A:Enjoy Lori!!!

  Lori Schulman:Thanks.





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