[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Notes and Action Items - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP Working Group - 11 December 2017

Wed Jan 3 22:14:16 UTC 2018

Hi,

Per request of Jeff I am sending this answer to the WT5 email address!

I think we are mixing up stuff here. Nobody (especially not the gNSO or ICANN) wants or can “dictate” anybody how to operate a city gTLD applicant/registry – with the (implied) sole exception of the city government that has to grant the letter of non-objection.

And that is the beauty of the chosen approval model: not ICANN decides who shall operate a city-gTLD but the representatives of the city; on the basis of the operation model brought forward by the applicant. In fact this is the old fashioned “beauty contest” – but outsourced to the city government! And that makes sense: you want that the city is evaluating the model and choses the one that is in the best interest of the CITY – not that some backroom auction winner takes over the city’s online identity.

Thanks,

Alexander

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Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Notes and Action Items - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP Working Group - 11 December 2017

Thanks Michele, Theo, Kavouss, Vanda and Christopher.  

Seems like we have a cross over of issues here between the overall group and the new Work Track 5.  I would encourage overall discussions on business models to stay within this mailing list, but remove any issues on geographic names to Work Track 5 when we get into the substance. 

Thus, the issue of whether business models of registries in general or within some “categories” of TLDs should be explored here.  But whether TLDs that coincide with geographic names should or should not be of a certain business model, should be discussed within Work Track 5.

The reason is not to stifle discussion, but I note that not all of the participants of Work Track 5 are in fact participants in this overall group.  I want to make sure that all Work Track 5 participants see all discussions that relate to “geographic names” 

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Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Notes and Action Items - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP Working Group - 11 December 2017

I’d also be quite concerned about dictating the business models of a registry.

Looking at the new TLDs that have launched to date (there are still quite a few that haven’t), the more flexible they are in terms of their business models the better and more sustainable they are.

I also wonder why anyone would think that mandating “non-profit” is viable or what that’s even based on.

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Subject: Re: [Gnso-newgtld-wg] Notes and Action Items - New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP Working Group - 11 December 2017

I think we are overstepping the scope of the WG here. Is this WG going to decide on business models? If that is the case, I think this WG should inform the GNSO and make sure we are within scope. 

Thanks, 

Theo Geurts

Theo 

On 1-1-2018 21:19, Kavouss Arasteh wrote:

Dear All, 

First of all Happy new years to all .

While I agree with Christopher and Vanda ,in principle , however, this should be further explored and discussed

.

Regards

Kavouss 

On Fri, Dec 29, 2017 at 3:04 PM, Rubens Kuhl < <mailto:rubensk at nic.br> rubensk at nic.br> wrote:

Vanda, 

I believe Katrin and Maxim were disagreeing with Christopher; just for clarity, do you believe that GeoTLDs should be required to be non-profit operations and have registration restrictions (like Christopher suggested) or to not have any of such requirements (like Katrin and Maxim suggested) ? 

Rubens

Em 28 de dez de 2017, à(s) 17:52:000, Vanda Scartezini < <mailto:vanda at scartezini.org> vanda at scartezini.org> escreveu:

Totally agree with Christopher, the cities in my country are not to intend to be not for profit 

Vanda Scartezini 

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