[Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] The 2012 AGB definitions of geographical names.

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Dear Nick:

The AGB text about geographical names cannot be taken as a ‘rule’ for the Geo-names phases of the next round.

(a)  Recognising that there was a problem, WT5 was set up with a particular structure, incorporating full AS/SO leadership and participation.

(b)   As far as I am concerned, the whole point of WT5 is to propose definitions, rules and policies that are more acceptable to the community, particularly  - in this case - to the global community outside ICANN.

(c)  Recent experience has amply confirmed that there are indeed serious problems with the current definition, which could very well get worse in a new round. I am sure that ICANN’s friends and critics are watching us.

Regards

CW



> On 23 Aug 2019, at 13:14, Nick Wenban-Smith <Nick.Wenban-Smith at nominet.uk <mailto:Nick.Wenban-Smith at nominet.uk>> wrote:
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> Hi Christopher
>  
> It all comes back to the definitions.
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> The 2012 AGB may have had plenty of deficiencies, but whether it’s good policy or not it did clearly and tightly define “geographic” (in section 2.2.1.4).
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> Neither Ben Nevis nor Scot met the definition, so it’s clearly correct (as per the rules in the 2012 AGB, and if we are not going to follow them then what’s the point of a rulebook?).
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> It’s the lack of agreement on this basic definition which has been the difficulty bedevilling the whole WT5 work stream IMO.
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> Best wishes
> Nick
>  
> From: lists at christopherwilkinson.eu <mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu> <lists at christopherwilkinson.eu <mailto:lists at christopherwilkinson.eu>> 
> Sent: 20 August 2019 19:39
> To: Nick Wenban-Smith <Nick.Wenban-Smith at nominet.uk <mailto:Nick.Wenban-Smith at nominet.uk>>
> Cc: Jorge.Cancio at bakom.admin.ch <mailto:Jorge.Cancio at bakom.admin.ch>; susan.payne at valideus.com <mailto:susan.payne at valideus.com>; gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 at icann.org <mailto:gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5 at icann.org>
> Subject: Re: Scotland - [Gnso-newgtld-wg-wt5] Preparation for WT5 Meeting 14 August and Final Topic Discussion - non-AGB terms
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> Dear Nick:  I think the Ben Nevis question should be resolved by the Scottish Administration at the level of subsidiarity that they would determine.
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> In any case, I would hope that they would refer to ‘whisky distilleries’.
>  
> P.CW
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> PS:  To this day I am ‘abasourdi’ by a then GNP decision under 2012 AGP that .scot is not a geographical term!
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> On 19 Aug 2019, at 18:29, Nick Wenban-Smith <Nick.Wenban-Smith at nominet.uk <mailto:Nick.Wenban-Smith at nominet.uk>> wrote:

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