[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Starting from Scratch

[Gomes, Chuck]

Simple answer: no. We are getting ahead of the work plan as I have tried to say in several other messages.

The dialog is good but not timely. If we allow this to happen we will lose a lot time because we will have to repeat all later and we will find ourselves jumping all over the place instead of focusing on where we need to focus at the time.

So I strongly request everyone to refrain.

Chuck

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On Jul 5, 2016, at 11:58 AM, DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang at gmail.com<mailto:dndannang at gmail.com>> wrote:

Dear All,

It looks as though we have started the deliberation and getting in deep waters. Are we going according to the workplan?
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On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 6:51 PM, Farell Folly <farellfolly at gmail.com<mailto:farellfolly at gmail.com>> wrote:

I am afraid we are going in too much detail...too EARLY for that !

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Le 5 juil. 2016 16:49, "Rob Golding" <rob.golding at astutium.com<mailto:rob.golding at astutium.com>> a écrit :
  registrar
Only in TLD that have a registry/registrar model. (And we are only
concerned about gTLD in this WG, right?)

Yes, as a WG we're essentially only concerned with gTLDs under ICANNs remit, so they all have a Registry/Registrar model (even if the Registrar on a brand-tld could be the Registry)

  auth-code
Also note that this is not baked into DNS technology or anything like
that, but is only an artifact of a current registrar transfer system.
Fundamentally this is a way to authenticate the registrant, which is
what the registry really needs.

It's less about authentication of the Registrant, and more about ensuring authorisation has been gained for the Transfer.

  status
What does this mean?

Domains are (currently) required to have "status" code(s) relating to locks, udrp etc - but on further reflection it's not absolutely necessary for the domain name to exist or function (although will be there "internally" at the Registry)

And for it to be of some "functional" use:
Optional
  nameservers

And also optionally:
   DS record (or DNSKEY or other cryptographic information which can be
   used to produce a DS record for DNSSEC).

Is the most-effective Denial-Of-Service methodology for domains actually needed for it to "work" though (leaving aside how many dont work because of dnssec) ? Probably.

So ...

To Exist =
* domain-name (what it is)
* registrar (who manages it)

To Function [optional] =
* nameservers
* ds-stuff

To Manage / Needed for Internal Systems =
* transfer authentication [optional dependant on registration model]
* expiry date
* status


As a final note, if there are no registrars then everything except for
the expiry date can be obtained from the DNS itself.

In principle I agree - I'm sure we can argue the minutiae of detail about whether it needs to be somewhere else for DNS to work though

Anyone else have items to add which are _required_ rather than one-or-more of wants/nice-to-have/needed-for-my-business-model etc ?


Rob
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