[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The overflowing list (was Re: A new and rather important document with respect to jurisdiction issues)

Fri Jul 15 20:32:47 UTC 2016

No cut off on documents but let's identify the new elements that new documents add.

Chuck

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Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The overflowing list (was Re: A new and rather important document with respect to jurisdiction issues)

I think we all agreed earlier that there would not be a cut-off line for new documents. Especially with a long PDP such as this one, we can expect things in the real world to change, and we should take note of such changes in our work to ensure we remain current.

Best,

Volker

Am 15.07.2016 um 14:42 schrieb h.raiche at internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche at internode.on.net>:
A really big plus one for Andrew.

I share concerns wth those who question whether the place to start is with uses.  It implicitly assumes that all of the current 'uses' of the information should continue.  General data protection law strongly suggests otherwise.

However, we are starting with uses - and as long as everyone realises that the current uses of the data will not be permitted under data protection law, then let's proceed.  And yes, we will come down to Andrew's fundamental question - what personal information that is collection should be accessible to all - OR NOT.  And, in the end, I am not sure how much more information we need.  From my perspective, I know I will not have time to read all of what is on the list already, let alone new stuff.  So  maybe let's focus on the information identified in public comment as the critical information for this issue and start talking about uses - what of the uses should be maintained, and what - for strong data protection reasons - should not.

Holly

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[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] The overflowing list (was Re: A new and rather important document with respect to jurisdiction issues)

On Thu, Jul 14, 2016 at 11:32:13PM -0400, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
> May I suggest that we add it to our already overflowing list of important
> documents?

I don't object, but I'm wondering whether there is really anything new
in most of the additional documents people are bringing.

It seems to me that we have a fundamental question we're going to have
to answer. I know that we've decided that now is not the time for
deliberation, so I don't encourage discussion about this question.
But I'm decreasingly convinced that more material is going to help us
come to any decision about balancing the desire of some, on one side,
to have a lot of personally identifying information about domain name
registrants; and the desire of others to ensure that such personally
identifying information is protected on privacy grounds.

We can probably continue to find additional examples of people
insisting they need one or the other of these, but I do not really see
any way that more evidence that someone really really wants one of
them (with all the attendant arguments rehearsed) is going to help us
come to a conclusion.

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A

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