[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] OT Re: An important technical consideration about nature of the service (was Re: The overflowing list )

Mon Jul 25 08:35:32 UTC 2016

Correct, but remember there may be cross border implications:

For example, EU data protection laws expect foreign companies to abide 
by the protections granted to European data subjects.

For example, German consumer protection agencies are threatening to sue 
Niantic over the data accumulation and location tracking performed by 
Pokemon Go. Even though Niantic is not a european company, it deals in 
data of European data subjects, so under EU law, EU law applies to how 
Niantic can treat EU citizens' data.

Similarly, US registrars and registries could be subject of enforcement 
if they violated data privacy rights of their EU customers. So 
essentially, compliance may not be limited to your home country law even 
though it is your main concern.

Best,

Volker

Am 22.07.2016 um 14:22 schrieb Michele Neylon - Blacknight:
>
> We have to comply with Irish law.
>
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> *From: *<isolatedn at gmail.com> on behalf of Sivasubramanian M 
> <6.Internet at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Friday 22 July 2016 at 13:21
> *To: *Michele Neylon <michele at blacknight.com>
> *Cc: *Sam Lanfranco <sam at lanfranco.net>, Chuck Gomes 
> <cgomes at verisign.com>, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net>, 
> "gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] OT Re: An important technical 
> consideration about nature of the service (was Re: The overflowing list )
>
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight 
> <michele at blacknight.com <mailto:michele at blacknight.com>> wrote:
>
>     Sam
>
>     >>But I will suggest that in parallel ICANN as an organization, the
>     ICANN multistakeholder community and stakeholders beyond ICANN,
>     have to develop strategies for engagement with ongoing >>efforts
>     outside ICANN around how to authenticate law enforcement data
>     requests.
>
>     Sorry, but what has this got to with the WG?
>
>     Also, ICANN does not hold registration data, so I can’t understand
>     why ICANN developing anything in this realm would be of any benefit.
>
>     As an Irish company we will deal with Irish law enforcement.
>     Overseas LEA can liaise with their Irish counterparts and comply
>     with Irish law if they want to submit any data requests.
>
> What happens when you the Irish company stores data of overseas 
> Registrants, and when Irish Law permits release of all data stored to 
> LEA, which contravenes the law of other countries whose Registrant 
> data happens to be Ireland?
>
> Sivasubramanian M 
>
>     Regards
>
>     Michele
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>     Mr Michele Neylon
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