[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] OT Re: An important technical consideration about nature of the service (was Re: The overflowing list )

Fri Jul 22 12:46:53 UTC 2016

If we were subject to a sealed order we wouldn’t be able to tell you (hint: that doesn’t happen much anywhere in Europe .. )

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From: <isolatedn at gmail.com> on behalf of Sivasubramanian M <6.Internet at gmail.com>
Date: Friday 22 July 2016 at 13:32
To: Michele Neylon <michele at blacknight.com>
Cc: Sam Lanfranco <sam at lanfranco.net>, Chuck Gomes <cgomes at verisign.com>, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net>, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] OT Re: An important technical consideration about nature of the service (was Re: The overflowing list )

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 5:52 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com<mailto:michele at blacknight.com>> wrote:

We have to comply with Irish law.

That would be a problem for me as a Registrant from another country, if my country were to provide stronger safeguards against the release of my data to LEA. Also, I would want to know why you released my data, possibly to the Irish LEA, under Irish Law.

Sivasubramanian M

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From: <isolatedn at gmail.com<mailto:isolatedn at gmail.com>> on behalf of Sivasubramanian M <6.Internet at gmail.com<mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com>>
Date: Friday 22 July 2016 at 13:21
To: Michele Neylon <michele at blacknight.com<mailto:michele at blacknight.com>>
Cc: Sam Lanfranco <sam at lanfranco.net<mailto:sam at lanfranco.net>>, Chuck Gomes <cgomes at verisign.com<mailto:cgomes at verisign.com>>, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net<mailto:vgreimann at key-systems.net>>, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] OT Re: An important technical consideration about nature of the service (was Re: The overflowing list )

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 5:40 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele at blacknight.com<mailto:michele at blacknight.com>> wrote:
Sam
>> But I will suggest that in parallel ICANN as an organization, the ICANN multistakeholder community and stakeholders beyond ICANN, have to develop strategies for engagement with ongoing >>efforts outside ICANN around how to authenticate law enforcement data requests.
Sorry, but what has this got to with the WG?
Also, ICANN does not hold registration data, so I can’t understand why ICANN developing anything in this realm would be of any benefit.

As an Irish company we will deal with Irish law enforcement. Overseas LEA can liaise with their Irish counterparts and comply with Irish law if they want to submit any data requests.

What happens when you the Irish company stores data of overseas Registrants, and when Irish Law permits release of all data stored to LEA, which contravenes the law of other countries whose Registrant data happens to be Ireland?

Sivasubramanian M 

Regards

Michele

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