[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] OT Re: An important technical consideration about nature of the service (was Re: The overflowing list )

Mon Jul 25 14:46:36 UTC 2016

To make it short, I expect that people in this group have a general and basic info about the difference of registrant, registrar and registry.
So when claiming that a registrar choose where he register the domain for the registrant are in my opionion as a registrar wrong.

The registrant has the choice of which registrar he uses and have an own responsibility to check where the registrar are legally bound of jurisdiction if that matters for the registrant.

Starting to put in what I will call wrong perspectives in the process will make it a waste of time and are nonsense.

I am here as an individual with an interest in the matter which I expect everyone here have?
But I am not hidding behind a gmail adress and no signature.

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Benny Samuelsen
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Nordreg AB - ICANN accredited registrar
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From: <isolatedn at gmail.com> on behalf of Sivasubramanian M <6.Internet at gmail.com>
Date: Monday 25 July 2016 at 16:12
To: Benny Samuelsen <benny at nordreg.se>
Cc: Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>, "gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] OT Re: An important technical consideration about nature of the service (was Re: The overflowing list )

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 9:39 PM, benny at nordreg.se<mailto:benny at nordreg.se> <benny at nordreg.se<mailto:benny at nordreg.se>> wrote:
Inline comments

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Med vänliga hälsningar / Kind Regards / Med vennlig hilsen

Benny Samuelsen
Registry Manager - Domainexpert

Nordreg AB - ICANN accredited registrar
IANA-ID: 638
Phone: +46.42197080<tel:%2B46.42197080>
Direct: +47.32260201<tel:%2B47.32260201>
Mobile: +47.40410200<tel:%2B47.40410200>

From: <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of Sivasubramanian M <6.Internet at gmail.com<mailto:6.Internet at gmail.com>>
Date: Friday 22 July 2016 at 15:19
To: Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com<mailto:ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>>
Cc: "gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org<mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] OT Re: An important technical consideration about nature of the service (was Re: The overflowing list )

Dear Andrew,

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com<mailto:ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>> wrote:
On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 06:02:26PM +0530, Sivasubramanian M wrote:

> That would be a problem for me as a Registrant from another country, if my
> country were to provide stronger safeguards against the release of my data
> to LEA.

So don't do business with an Irish company?

As a Registrant, I don't make the choice to do business with the Irish Company, but the Registrar who registered my domain name or the Registry that operates that domain name at the Top Level makes that decision.

That is so wrong in all aspects
You as registrant choose registrar and compliant to accept conditions wherein there are referred to jurisdiction of the registrar

Policies to make every company providing anything anywhere do exactly the same thing?  Why not?

The obvious answer, ICANN does not make the rules in every country…
Please spare us from wasting time on such nonsense as this…

Are you saying that this discussion on use of Registrant data is "wasting time" and "such nonesense" as an individual participant, or saying this as Nordreg.se or as a stakeholder group member ?

And, ICANN can not make rules in every country, but ICANN can make rules about DNS, it can encourage good practices concerning DNS data.

On your earlier comment that "this is so wrong",  the point is not about a Registrant choosing a Registrar, but that the choice of the Registrar does not alone guarantee the data rights of the Registrant.

Sivasubramanian M

Sivasubramanian M

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