[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] OT Re: An important technical consideration about nature of the service (was Re: The overflowing list )

Mon Jul 25 14:49:50 UTC 2016

Great. Then the IETF could pay attention to the complexities of matters
concerning Registrant Data.

On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com> wrote:

> As you noted, I was concerned about the use of the term ‘rules’.  As you
> know ICANN does not establish rules for the DNS; the IETF approves the
> technical standards for the DNS.  I just wanted to make sure that everyone
> understands that.
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> Chuck
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> *From:* isolatedn at gmail.com [mailto:isolatedn at gmail.com] *On Behalf Of *Sivasubramanian
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> *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2016 10:34 AM
> *To:* Gomes, Chuck
> *Cc:* benny at nordreg.se; gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
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> *Subject:* Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] OT Re: An important technical
> consideration about nature of the service (was Re: The overflowing list )
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> Dear Chuck,
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> ICANN Coordinates the allocation of Names and Numbers, by policies and
> programs. "Rule" may be a strong word here, slipped in from the question
> that I was answering, it is coordination, and the coordination happens by
> agreements. If it coordinates the allocation, it ought to consider itself
> responsible for all aspects concerning how fairly these resources are
> allocated, and ICANN especially ought to pay attention to the aspects
> related to DNS data.
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> By your question, "what rules does ICANN make about DNS", are you implying
> that DNS is free for all, in a commercial sense?
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> Sivasubramanian M
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> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 7:52 PM, Gomes, Chuck <cgomes at verisign.com> wrote:
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> What rules does ICANN make about DNS?
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> Chuck
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> *From:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org [mailto:
> gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org] *On Behalf Of *Sivasubramanian M
> *Sent:* Monday, July 25, 2016 10:13 AM
> *To:* benny at nordreg.se
> *Cc:* gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org
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> *Subject:* Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] OT Re: An important technical
> consideration about nature of the service (was Re: The overflowing list )
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> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 9:39 PM, benny at nordreg.se <benny at nordreg.se>
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> Inline comments
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> Med vänliga hälsningar / Kind Regards / Med vennlig hilsen
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> Benny Samuelsen
> Registry Manager - Domainexpert
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> Nordreg AB - ICANN accredited registrar
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> IANA-ID: 638
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> Phone: +46.42197080
> Direct: +47.32260201
> Mobile: +47.40410200
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> *From: *<gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Sivasubramanian
> M <6.Internet at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Friday 22 July 2016 at 15:19
> *To: *Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>
> *Cc: *"gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
> *Subject: *Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] OT Re: An important technical
> consideration about nature of the service (was Re: The overflowing list )
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> Dear Andrew,
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> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>
> wrote:
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> On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 06:02:26PM +0530, Sivasubramanian M wrote:
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> > That would be a problem for me as a Registrant from another country, if
> my
> > country were to provide stronger safeguards against the release of my
> data
> > to LEA.
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> So don't do business with an Irish company?
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> As a Registrant, I don't make the choice to do business with the Irish
> Company, but the Registrar who registered my domain name or the Registry
> that operates that domain name at the Top Level makes that decision.
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> That is so wrong in all aspects
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> You as registrant choose registrar and compliant to accept conditions
> wherein there are referred to jurisdiction of the registrar
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> Policies to make every company providing anything anywhere do exactly
> the same thing?  Why not?
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> The obvious answer, ICANN does not make the rules in every country…
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> Please spare us from wasting time on such nonsense as this…
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> Are you saying that this discussion on use of Registrant data is
> "wasting time" and "such nonesense" as an individual participant, or saying
> this as Nordreg.se or as a stakeholder group member ?
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> And, ICANN can not make rules in every country, but ICANN can make rules
> about DNS, it can encourage good practices concerning DNS data.
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> On your earlier comment that "this is so wrong",  the point is not about a
> Registrant choosing a Registrar, but that the choice of the Registrar does
> not alone guarantee the data rights of the Registrant.
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