[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] List discussion topics
Paul Keating
Paul at law.es
Thu Jul 27 17:32:01 UTC 2017
Yes, legally. They are the agent of a principle.
From: Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net>
Date: Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 5:56 PM
To: Paul Keating <paul at law.es>, <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] List discussion topics
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> Hi Paul,
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> that would be the expectation, but are they really? Are they asked if they
> agreed to be put in the whois? Have they provided explicit permission for
> their data to be collected (and in whois: published)?
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>
> Best,
>
>
> Volker
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>
>
> Am 27.07.2017 um 14:19 schrieb Paul Keating:
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>> Sorry but I disagree.
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>> A tech or admin contact generally fits into one of the following categories:
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>> 1. Agent of the registrant (e.g. Hired or retained to serve).
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>> 2. Employee of the registrant
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>> 3. A non-individual.
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>> As to #1 and 2, the service in the capacity is part of the responsibilities
>> of the agent/employee. The contact information is the contact information
>> used by the agent/employee for commercial purposes. In fact it is generally
>> either the business email address of the non-individual company or of the
>> registrant. This is not in fact personal information any more than my email
>> address for my law firm is personal information. If it were otherwise the
>> world would grind to a halt because no one could use or publish even an email
>> issued by the agent/employee on behalf of and in his/her capacity as an
>> agent/employee.
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>> As for #3, non-individual information is not covered by any of the relevant
>> data protection laws.
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>> Again, lets focus on the data sets and not incorporate )(at this stage)
>> issues of what level of access should be granted to those sets.
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>> Paul
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>> From: <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Volker Greimann
>> <vgreimann at key-systems.net>
>> Date: Thursday, July 27, 2017 at 11:51 AM
>> To: <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
>> Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] List discussion topics
>>
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>>>
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>>> I think consent is one of the most basic problems for the non-registrant
>>> contacts, e.g. tech, admin (and billing in some cases). As the registrar is
>>> (at best) only interacting directly with the registrant, and the other
>>> contacts are not subject to any agreement and/or policy directly, we had to
>>> trust that the registrant (or his agent) had obtained the appropriate
>>> content from the entities listed for those roles.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Clearly, this is no longer sufficient under the new data privacy regime
>>> where consent bust be explicitly given by the data subject.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Abuse would be a new role to consider, however the same basically applies.
>>>
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>>>
>>> I think the descriptions from the EWG are good and sufficient.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>>> Volker
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 26.07.2017 um 22:21 schrieb Chuck Gomes Consulting:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In addition to discussion about the topics in this week¹s poll, members are
>>>> encouraged to also discuss the following on the WG list between now and our
>>>> meeting next week:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For admin, technical, abuse, and privacy/proxy roles, all WG members
>>>> encouraged to discuss on-list the following questions:
>>>>
>>>> · Are these roles needed?
>>>>
>>>> · How do they differ from each other?
>>>>
>>>> · How might they differ from the registrant?
>>>>
>>>> The following description of these roles, excerpted from the EWG report,
>>>> may be helpful in kicking off discussion:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Note: The above contact types (roles) are being discussed first because
>>>> they received broad support in our 28 June call poll. The EWG Report
>>>> defined two additional contact types (roles) which received less support in
>>>> our 28 June call poll; to enable focus on possible common ground,
>>>> additional contact types will be discussed separately.
>>>>
>>>> Chuck
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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> Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
>
> Volker A. Greimann
> - Rechtsabteilung -
>
> Key-Systems GmbH
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