[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Principle on Proportionality for "Thin Data"access

allison nixon elsakoo at gmail.com
Wed May 31 17:39:02 UTC 2017


Good faith does not excuse ignorance. Such a mistake reveals the extreme
tunnel vision by many self proclaimed privacy advocates here. It shows why
they butt heads with people who work every day in the trenches to actually
protect privacy of real- not theoretical- victims.

On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:30 PM, Jeremy Malcolm <jmalcolm at eff.org> wrote:

> Again, I really think we need to dial down the level of sarcasm here.  The
> proportionality proposal was made in good faith.
>
> However, I'm from a privacy advocacy organization and even I have agreed
> that there are operational problems with any proposal to limit
> unauthenticated access to thin WHOIS data.  I agree that while privacy is
> an absolutely key principle to be upheld, so is the generativity of the
> Internet, and that unauthenticated access to thin WHOIS data, much of which
> just replicates the information that end users make available through their
> own nameservers, is part of the permissionless innovation that underpins
> many real world Internet applications.
>
>
> On 31/5/17 10:14 am, allison nixon wrote:
>
> Which includes nameservers, which are collected and propagated by the
> registrars. If this is deemed sensitive information, then the registrars
> should be careful sharing that data via other outlets without tight
> restrictions!
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Michael Peddemors <michael at linuxmagic.com
> > wrote:
>
>> On 17-05-31 10:07 AM, allison nixon wrote:
>>
>>> the rest of it can't be. You can't put a DNS query behind a EULA. We
>>> can't pretend there are restrictions on this data.
>>>
>>>
>> We aren't discussing DNS or any other places that data is available as
>> part of this working group. Only the informed consent of data held in whois
>> thin data.
>>
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