[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] CIRCL - Luxembourg CERT Statement on WHOIS

Greg Shatan gregshatanipc at gmail.com
Fri Apr 13 22:34:34 UTC 2018


But John, they referred to a Recital when they meant to refer to an
Article.  Isn’t that sufficient grounds to dismiss their concerns entirely?

On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 6:25 PM John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <
gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org> wrote:

> CIRCL as well as the many security and anti-abuse professionals on this
> list are individuals charged with ACTUALLY protecting human rights on the
> Internet.
>
> The fact that our expertise in this very area is routinely discarded if
> not mocked is a large source of the consternation that continues in his
> group.
>
> Its bad enough people on this list have taken to implying security
> professionals are criminals and human rights violators... we’re now going
> to imply the same of national computer emergency response teams?
>
> What does this say about the multistakeholder model when we keep returning
> to this discussion where people are not only ignoring stakeholders, but
> openly denigrating them?
>
> J
>
> --
> John Bambenek
>
> On Apr 13, 2018, at 15:20, Ayden Férdeline <icann at ferdeline.com> wrote:
>
> This publication is dependent on, and only cites, the GDPR's recitals.
> While the recitals may inform the interpretation of the GDPR's articles,
> they are not legally binding. Only the GDPR's articles are binding
> instruments. I would also like to note that no human rights impact
> assessment appears to have been conducted in the preparation of this
> publication. If one had been, I am confident we would have seen that the
> protection of the privacy rights of a domain name registrant outweigh the
> claimed security risks.
>
> Ayden Férdeline
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> On 12 April 2018 7:47 PM, John Bambenek via gnso-rds-pdp-wg <
> gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org> wrote:
>
> A good read from a European entity on why open and free access to whois
> data is both essential AND legal under GDPR. And its coming from a state
> sponsored entity.
>
> https://www.circl.lu/pub/tr-53/
>
> --
> John Bambenek
>
>
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