[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] We should not build atop whois (was Re: Domain Name Certification )

[Marika Konings]

For your convenience, SSAC51 can be found here: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/sac-051-en.pdf. As a reminder, for other key inputs, please see https://community.icann.org/x/R4xlAw.

Best regards,

Marika

From: gnso-rds-pdp-wg <gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Holly Raiche <h.raiche at internode.on.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 01:45
To: Paul Keating <paul at law.es>
Cc: "gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org" <gnso-rds-pdp-wg at icann.org>
Subject: Re: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] We should not build atop whois (was Re: Domain Name Certification )

Paul

Please read (if you haven’t already) SSAC 51 on the use of the ‘Whois' term and why all that time ago, the SSAC recommended more precise wording when talking about registration data (services, the actual data and the protocol) so that people could avoid the confusion raised by using ‘Whois’ terminology and be very clear on what was being referred to.

Holly
On 10 Jan 2018, at 11:20 am, Paul Keating <paul at law.es<mailto:paul at law.es>> wrote:


But it is WHOIS.
Sent from my iPad

On 10 Jan 2018, at 01:09, Holly Raiche <h.raiche at internode.on.net<mailto:h.raiche at internode.on.net>> wrote:
Thanks Andrew

So maybe we can now focus - please - on using the SSAC’s preferred language and on referring to RDDS or RDAP - and the issues raised by the RDAP protocols.

Holly
On 10 Jan 2018, at 10:59 am, Andrew Sullivan <ajs at anvilwalrusden.com<mailto:ajs at anvilwalrusden.com>> wrote:


On Wed, Jan 10, 2018 at 10:49:14AM +1100, Holly Raiche wrote:

To what extent should we stop using references to Whois, and start talking specifically about the RADP protocols that have been designed for the 21st century internet, and to what extent if any do they address the problems with registration data bases that you have identified -


Well, I think that the SSAC answered this some time ago, by inventing
the notion of the RDDS.  By extension we somehow got the RDS, which is
what this WG is supposed to be talking about.  But we won't be helped
in that effort if we keep mentally substituting "whois" for either
RDDS or RDS.

Best regards,

A

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