[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] Working paper from the Berlin group

[Ayden Férdeline]

Well said, Theo.

I take the point that Andrew makes that there is not new information here; that is true. Some, like Stephanie, have been advancing these arguments for years.

But when the status quo at ICANN is challenged by either governments, business, or non-commercial users, the two former more powerful voices are given significant deference in the outcomes of policy development, so, lacking the 'muscle' of financial power and state power, until now not everyone has been listening to these well-developed recommendations put forward by those with awareness of the privacy and data protection laws in many jurisdictions. One day, I hope we all start to listen.

Ayden

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On 9 March 2018 7:48 PM, theo geurts <gtheo at xs4all.nl> wrote:

> Hi Andrew,
>
> These recommendations go beyond WHOIS, but yet tie in directly with issues we will face as a WG.
>
> Furthermore, this is not a few DPA's from Europe who made these recommendations; these are the recommendations from DPA's and experts all over the world, which makes it, in my opinion, a global recommendation.
>
> And to kindly to remind everyone again, there are more than 120 countries with data protection laws. So this is not some little tea club gathering, these recommendations took a lot of time to get vetted by this group due to the many members. They started working in November last year on this, so they took their time.
>
> We would be fools to ignore this.
>
> Theo
>
> On 9-3-2018 17:02, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
>
>> I think I asked this before about recommended additional materials: could you say something about what's new or useful in this paper that means we ought to read it too?  I fear that we are at that point where everything that is to be said about the RDS has been said, but not everyone has said it. More input should only be considered as important if there's something new, I think.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> A
>>
>> --
>> Please excuse my clumbsy thums
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>> On March 9, 2018 9:21:32 AM Stephanie Perrin [<stephanieperrin at mail.utoronto.ca>](mailto:stephanieperrin at mail.utoronto.ca) wrote:
>>
>>> The International WOrking Group on Data Protection in Telecommunications, a group of data commissioners and experts on DP and IT have released a new paper on ICANN and RDS.  It should be added to our repository, please.
>>> https://www.datenschutz-berlin.de/pdf/publikationen/working-paper/2017/2017-IWGDPT_Working_Paper_WHOIS_ICANN-en.pdf
>>>
>>> Stephanie Perrin
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