[gnso-rpm-wg] Suggestion for Leadership Team

Volker Greimann vgreimann at key-systems.net
Tue Apr 12 15:30:06 UTC 2016


Hi Greg,

I think there is a good balance here, despite your concerns:
If as you say, represents business interests with an IP focus, Kathy 
represents users of domain names and Phil presents owners of domain 
names, there is no real overlap here, and even if there were, the 
leaderships role is a neutral one and one's own position should not 
influence the work, wouldn't you agree?

While having a leadership position filled by the CPH may be desirable, 
there has been no nomination or volunteer that would fit that slot, AFAIK.

Best,

Volker

Am 12.04.2016 um 17:04 schrieb Greg Shatan via gnso-rpm-wg:
> I think the balance issue cuts rather differently, and a vice-chair 
> from the Contracted Parties House might actually exacerbate the issue.
>
> If we are talking about "formal" representation, both J. Scott and 
> Phil are members of the Business Constituency, so it's not fair to say 
> that Phil, but not J. Scott, represents "business interests."  On an 
> informal or "de facto" level, J Scott tends to represent (or at least 
> stand for) the interests of businesses for whom IP is a significant 
> asset, while Phil represents (and actually does represent) the 
> interests of domain investors (a very specific sector of the business 
> community for whom IP is, at best, not a significant asset). As such, 
> Phil's perspectives are far more aligned with those represented by 
> Kathy, and that is the imbalance to which I refer.
>
> My suggested configuration was intended to find a role for all 3 
> volunteers, while maintaining some sort of balance.  If Phil's not 
> interested in the GNSO Liaison role, in spite of the fact that it's 
> the role he volunteered for at Council, that's fine.  However, that 
> does make it appear that this was done as a steppingstone to the Chair 
> and not out of interest in the role on its own merits.  Of course, I 
> may be reading too much into things.
>
> I'd like to stress that I have the highest respect, and even 
> affection, for all 3 volunteers, and for their contributions to ICANN 
> over the years.  But the configuration of our leadership team has to 
> take other things into account.
>
> Greg
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 10:45 AM, Jonathan Frost via gnso-rpm-wg 
> <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>> wrote:
>
>     I tend to agree that there might be balance issues in that  the
>     non-contracted party house would have three representatives and
>     the contracted party house would have none.
>
>     I think a viable option would be to  Phil as the Chair, J. Scott
>     and Kathy as Vice Chairs, and a third vice chair from the
>     contracted party house, to balance the equation.
>
>     Jonathan
>
>     *From:*gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org
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>     <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg-bounces at icann.org>] *On Behalf Of *Greg Shatan
>     via gnso-rpm-wg
>     *Sent:* Tuesday, April 12, 2016 10:38 AM
>     *To:* Statton Hammock <statton at rightside.rocks>
>     *Cc:* Zahid Jamil-IG via gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org
>     <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>>
>     *Subject:* Re: [gnso-rpm-wg] Suggestion for Leadership Team
>
>     I have some concerns with this configuration in terms of balance
>     (and related concerns about the accuracy of Volker's
>     categorizations, on both the "formal" and de facto levels).  As
>     such I would instead suggest J. Scott and Kathy as co-chairs, with
>     Phil remaining in the role of GNSO Liaison (the primary role to
>     which Phil was already appointed).
>
>     Greg Shatan
>
>     On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 9:40 AM, Statton Hammock via gnso-rpm-wg
>     <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>> wrote:
>
>         Also agree with Volker's suggestion.
>
>         Statton
>
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>         On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 6:30 AM, Gabriela Szlak via
>         gnso-rpm-wg <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org
>         <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>> wrote:
>
>             ​+ 1 to Volker.
>
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>             2016-04-12 10:24 GMT-03:00 Volker Greimann via gnso-rpm-wg
>             <gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org <mailto:gnso-rpm-wg at icann.org>>:
>
>                 Hi all,
>
>                 with the list of nominations and seconds that we have
>                 right now (and provided we will not get any last
>                 minute nominations), it looks like Phil, Scott and
>                 Kathy have the most support. While none of these
>                 candidates represent contracted parties, I do not see
>                 this as a problem, as I have great faith in the
>                 neutrality of all candidates.
>
>                 With Phil formally representing business interests,
>                 Scott the IP concerns and Kathy the non commercial
>                 users, I propose we consider a triumvirate, maybe with
>                 one chair and two co/vice-chairs, with Phil as chair
>                 and Scott and Kathy as co-chairs.
>
>                 Best regards,
>
>                 Volker
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