[gnso-rpm-wg] FOR REVIEW & DISCUSSION: Draft collated proposal for Sunrise-related data collection

Kurt Pritz kurt at kjpritz.com
Wed Aug 9 16:28:14 UTC 2017


The six or so paragraphs that I wrote previous to the one you chose to “snip” explained that there has been no evidence-based determination that supports elimination of Sunrise. The evidence I have seen to date indicates the opposite to me. 

Merely citing low usage does, without more (e.g., a frame of reference, usage goals, some indication by brands) does not make a case for abolishing the practice. 

To restate the practicalities: When seeking to overturn a 17-year-old practice (or longer) that has been endorsed uniformly by governments and others, we should come with stronger arguments than what has been presented. 


> On Aug 9, 2017, at 4:07 PM, Jeremy Malcolm <jmalcolm at eff.org> wrote:
> On 09.08.2017 05:50, Kurt Pritz wrote:
>> Practically speaking, remember that the original policy recommendation
>> required no mandatory RPMs. That caused such consternation that the
>> IRT was convened to create RPMs and then the GAC strengthened them. I
>> think is is naive to think that this group could conclude that we
>> abandon Sunrise and that would be the end of the story. Such a
>> recommendation would lead to a several-month (or longer) process that
>> would, in the end, reinstate Sunrise. If I were convinced we had solid
>> arguments, I might be tempted to take on that challenge. For the
>> reasons stated above, I don’t think yours is a winning or winnable
>> argument.
> We should not be railroaded into supporting a failing policy for fear that our evidence-based determination will be overridden at a higher level for political reasons.  EFF supports (and, indeed, formally proposed some months ago) that Sunrise be abolished.
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