[IDN-WG] Meeting Room / meeting again Thu 9:30-11am [RE: response on VIP Project plan]

Edmon Chung edmon at isoc.hk
Thu Mar 15 14:24:39 UTC 2012


Thanks for the comment Hong, will update the draft and moderate the verbiage.  Just to confirm, you meant the part starting with "The Proposed Project Plan has moved away from a practical approach..."
Edmon


-----Original Message-----
From: Hong Xue [mailto:hongxueipr at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 9:52 PM
To: Edmon Chung
Cc: Gisella Gruber; idn-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org
Subject: Re: [IDN-WG] Meeting Room / meeting again Thu 9:30-11am [RE: response on VIP Project plan]

Hi, this is a good draft. Thanks, Edmon. One rough thinking is:

The 1st sentence under bulletin 2 sounds too critical. We may wish to
present a positive agenda of promoting IDN users' interests, rather
than criticizing the knowledge or experience shortage of ICANN
technical specialists.

Since I have to attend other meeting, I apologize for not being able
to join this meeting.

Hong




On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon at isoc.hk> wrote:
> Hi Everyone,
>
> Please find attached a draft ALAC response to the IDN VIP Project Plan based on the discussions so far this week.
>
> See you all:
> Thursday March 15, 2012
> 09:30-11:00
> Room: Girasol
>
> Edmon
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gisella Gruber [mailto:Gisella.Gruber at icann.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:32 AM
> To: Edmon Chung; Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
> Cc: idn-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> Subject: Meeting Room / meeting again Thu 9:30-11am [RE: response on VIP Project plan]
>
> Dear Edmon and Working Group Members,
>
> Girasol Room (by the pool) is available from 09:30 to 11:00am on Thursday
> morning. Please note HARD STOP at 11am as the room is occupied from 11am
> onwards.
>
> NO AUDIO VISUAL will be available.
>
> Thank you.
> Kind regards,
> Gisella
>
> On 13/03/2012 17:58, "Edmon Chung" <edmon at isoc.hk> wrote:
>
>>I believe Jean-Jacques, Rinalia and Tijani can also make the time.
>>
>>Edmon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>From: Sivasubramanian M [mailto:isolatedn at gmail.com]
>>Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:40 AM
>>To: Edmon Chung
>>Cc: idn-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>Subject: Re: [IDN-WG] meeting again Thu 9:30-11am [RE: response on VIP
>>Project plan]
>>
>>
>>
>>Dear Edmon
>>
>>
>>
>>Will attend this meeting.
>>
>>
>>
>>On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon at isoc.hk> wrote:
>>
>>Hi Everyone,
>>
>>Based on the feedback and discussions we had with the VIP team during our
>>Monday session, I was hoping we could try to meet up further this week to
>>prepare our response to the VIP Project plan.
>>
>>Looking at the agenda, would like to suggest:
>>Thursday, March 15
>>9:30 - 11am
>>
>>I wonder if the time may work for most people...
>>
>>In the meantime, I will also prepare some notes highlighting the core
>>issues of the project plan based on the feedback from the group so far
>>and circulate it to the list by Wednesday night (probably late night or
>>very early am Thu).
>>
>>In our Monday meeting, we suggested for the extension of the public
>>comment period as well as setting up a webminar to allow for At-Large to
>>better understand the issues as well. Would like to talk further about
>>that as well if we could meet Thursday.
>>
>>Edmon
>>
>>
>>PS. Also, ALAC staff team, I wonder if any signup rooms may be available
>>at that time.  We should not need other support.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: idn-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>[mailto:idn-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Edmon Chung
>>Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 4:23 AM
>>To: idn-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>Subject: [IDN-WG] response on VIP Project plan
>>
>>Hi Everyone,
>>
>>Here is a very brief skeleton for discussion of our response to the VIP
>>Project Plan
>>(http://www.icann.org/en/resources/idn/idn-vip-proposed-project-plan-20feb
>>12-en.pdf):
>>
>>1. General ALAC Position
>>       - reiterate our support for IDN and IDN Variants
>>       - reiterate IDN's importance on multilingualism, etc.
>>       - reiterate our concerns for continued delay on the implementation
>>of IDN Variant TLDs
>>       - ...
>>
>>2. Budget & Process
>>       - Previous ALAC comment from FY13
>>https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/31166974/ALAC+Statement+o
>>n+the+Framework+for+the+FY+13+Budget.pdf?version=2
>><https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/31166974/ALAC+Statement+
>>on+the+Framework+for+the+FY+13+Budget.pdf?version=2&modificationDate=13313
>>27978359> &modificationDate=1331327978359
>>       - transparency of process for which the budget for VIP was
>>developed
>>       - explanation on consultants vs. volunteers (was the original VIP
>>results not satisfactory?)
>>       - ...
>>
>>3. ALAC Concerns
>>       - lack of clarity or clear need on some projects (project 3)
>>       - theoretic/grandiose approach (projects 1&2) versus practical
>>implementation (spirit of the Internet)
>>       - need to better distinguish issues not specific to IDN Variant
>>TLDs (project 4)
>>       - out of scope for ICANN (project 5)
>>       - cart before the horse (project 6)
>>
>>4. ALAC Advice
>>       - concentrate efforts to implement IDN Variant TLDs for
>>communities who are ready
>>       - leverage already available expertise and experience from the
>>community
>>       - direct funding to other IDN communities to support the bottom-up
>>development of IDN policies from the language community
>>       - refocus on ICANN Scope (projects 7 & 8)
>>       - ...
>>
>>Feel free to start the discussion on this mailing list and we will
>>continue at our meeting on Monday
>>(http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29525)
>>
>>Edmon
>>
>>
>>PS. If it is agreeable, would also like to invite the VIP team to our
>>discussion
>>
>>
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