[IDN-WG] Meeting Room / meeting again Thu 9:30-11am [RE: response on VIP Project plan]

Salanieta T. Tamanikaiwaimaro salanieta.tamanikaiwaimaro at gmail.com
Thu Mar 15 15:42:07 UTC 2012


My tracked edits (comments) are attached.

Kind Regards,
Sala
On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:51 AM, Hong Xue <hongxueipr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, this is a good draft. Thanks, Edmon. One rough thinking is:
>
> The 1st sentence under bulletin 2 sounds too critical. We may wish to
> present a positive agenda of promoting IDN users' interests, rather
> than criticizing the knowledge or experience shortage of ICANN
> technical specialists.
>
> Since I have to attend other meeting, I apologize for not being able
> to join this meeting.
>
> Hong
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon at isoc.hk> wrote:
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > Please find attached a draft ALAC response to the IDN VIP Project Plan
> based on the discussions so far this week.
> >
> > See you all:
> > Thursday March 15, 2012
> > 09:30-11:00
> > Room: Girasol
> >
> > Edmon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gisella Gruber [mailto:Gisella.Gruber at icann.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 11:32 AM
> > To: Edmon Chung; Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
> > Cc: idn-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> > Subject: Meeting Room / meeting again Thu 9:30-11am [RE: response on VIP
> Project plan]
> >
> > Dear Edmon and Working Group Members,
> >
> > Girasol Room (by the pool) is available from 09:30 to 11:00am on Thursday
> > morning. Please note HARD STOP at 11am as the room is occupied from 11am
> > onwards.
> >
> > NO AUDIO VISUAL will be available.
> >
> > Thank you.
> > Kind regards,
> > Gisella
> >
> > On 13/03/2012 17:58, "Edmon Chung" <edmon at isoc.hk> wrote:
> >
> >>I believe Jean-Jacques, Rinalia and Tijani can also make the time.
> >>
> >>Edmon
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>From: Sivasubramanian M [mailto:isolatedn at gmail.com]
> >>Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 7:40 AM
> >>To: Edmon Chung
> >>Cc: idn-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >>Subject: Re: [IDN-WG] meeting again Thu 9:30-11am [RE: response on VIP
> >>Project plan]
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Dear Edmon
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Will attend this meeting.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 5:03 PM, Edmon Chung <edmon at isoc.hk> wrote:
> >>
> >>Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >>Based on the feedback and discussions we had with the VIP team during our
> >>Monday session, I was hoping we could try to meet up further this week to
> >>prepare our response to the VIP Project plan.
> >>
> >>Looking at the agenda, would like to suggest:
> >>Thursday, March 15
> >>9:30 - 11am
> >>
> >>I wonder if the time may work for most people...
> >>
> >>In the meantime, I will also prepare some notes highlighting the core
> >>issues of the project plan based on the feedback from the group so far
> >>and circulate it to the list by Wednesday night (probably late night or
> >>very early am Thu).
> >>
> >>In our Monday meeting, we suggested for the extension of the public
> >>comment period as well as setting up a webminar to allow for At-Large to
> >>better understand the issues as well. Would like to talk further about
> >>that as well if we could meet Thursday.
> >>
> >>Edmon
> >>
> >>
> >>PS. Also, ALAC staff team, I wonder if any signup rooms may be available
> >>at that time.  We should not need other support.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: idn-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >>[mailto:idn-wg-bounces at atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Edmon Chung
> >>Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2012 4:23 AM
> >>To: idn-wg at atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >>Subject: [IDN-WG] response on VIP Project plan
> >>
> >>Hi Everyone,
> >>
> >>Here is a very brief skeleton for discussion of our response to the VIP
> >>Project Plan
> >>(
> http://www.icann.org/en/resources/idn/idn-vip-proposed-project-plan-20feb
> >>12-en.pdf):
> >>
> >>1. General ALAC Position
> >>       - reiterate our support for IDN and IDN Variants
> >>       - reiterate IDN's importance on multilingualism, etc.
> >>       - reiterate our concerns for continued delay on the implementation
> >>of IDN Variant TLDs
> >>       - ...
> >>
> >>2. Budget & Process
> >>       - Previous ALAC comment from FY13
> >>
> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/31166974/ALAC+Statement+o
> >>n+the+Framework+for+the+FY+13+Budget.pdf?version=2
> >><
> https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/31166974/ALAC+Statement+
>
> >>on+the+Framework+for+the+FY+13+Budget.pdf?version=2&modificationDate=13313
> >>27978359> &modificationDate=1331327978359
> >>       - transparency of process for which the budget for VIP was
> >>developed
> >>       - explanation on consultants vs. volunteers (was the original VIP
> >>results not satisfactory?)
> >>       - ...
> >>
> >>3. ALAC Concerns
> >>       - lack of clarity or clear need on some projects (project 3)
> >>       - theoretic/grandiose approach (projects 1&2) versus practical
> >>implementation (spirit of the Internet)
> >>       - need to better distinguish issues not specific to IDN Variant
> >>TLDs (project 4)
> >>       - out of scope for ICANN (project 5)
> >>       - cart before the horse (project 6)
> >>
> >>4. ALAC Advice
> >>       - concentrate efforts to implement IDN Variant TLDs for
> >>communities who are ready
> >>       - leverage already available expertise and experience from the
> >>community
> >>       - direct funding to other IDN communities to support the bottom-up
> >>development of IDN policies from the language community
> >>       - refocus on ICANN Scope (projects 7 & 8)
> >>       - ...
> >>
> >>Feel free to start the discussion on this mailing list and we will
> >>continue at our meeting on Monday
> >>(http://costarica43.icann.org/node/29525)
> >>
> >>Edmon
> >>
> >>
> >>PS. If it is agreeable, would also like to invite the VIP team to our
> >>discussion
> >>
> >>
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> >>
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> --
> Dr. Hong Xue
> Professor of Law
> Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law (IIPL)
> Beijing Normal University
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