[Internal-cg] Chairing - way forward

Alissa Cooper alissa at cooperw.in
Mon Aug 11 20:22:49 UTC 2014


Hi Kavouss,

I’m not sure that I understand your question, but the process is as I
outlined in my mail next week: after 23:59 UTC, we will have the final list
of volunteers and Joe will run a selection process for both vice-chair slots
and the chair slot.

Alissa

On 8/11/14, 12:43 PM, "Kavouss Arasteh" <kavouss.arasteh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Alissa,
> What about the Vice chairs
> '
> Kavouss
> 
> 
> 2014-08-11 21:34 GMT+02:00 Jon Nevett <jon at donuts.co>:
>> Agreed.  It appears that we have consensus with just a few holdouts.  Let's
>> move on.  Thanks.  Jon
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 11, 2014, at 3:24 PM, Milton L Mueller <mueller at syr.edu> wrote:
>> 
>>> > I would also support the consensus call here. I believe the overwhelming
>>> majority of the group supports 1+2, and that the minority objections to it
>>> pertained to regional/citizenship diversity. I thought that these concerns
>>> had been met by the withdrawal of K. Drazek as a candidate and the
>>> understanding that the +2 would be from different regions.
>>> >
>>> > --MM
>>> >
>>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>>> >> From: internal-cg-bounces at icann.org [mailto:internal-cg-
>>>> >> bounces at icann.org] On Behalf Of Alissa Cooper
>>>> >> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2014 2:48 PM
>>>> >> To: Subrenat, Jean-Jacques
>>>> >> Cc: ICG
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [Internal-cg] Chairing - way forward
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Hi Jean-Jacques,
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On 8/11/14, 8:31 AM, "Subrenat, Jean-Jacques" <jjs at dyalog.net> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>>> >>> Sorry Alissa,
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> I'm afraid there is neither clarity nor consensus on the way forward
on
>>>>> >>> this point, and that the deadline will have to be extended.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> As interim chair, I made the consensus call last week, in my email
>>>> below.
>>>> >> It continues to stand, and I believe I have the support of the bulk of
>>>> the
>>>> >> group behind me. Consensus involves accommodating objections to the best
>>>> >> extent possible while maintaining broad support within the group. It
>>>> does
>>>> >> not require unanimity and cannot be held up by a small minority of
>>>> objectors.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> So we are on track to get the selection going once the deadline expires
>>>> later
>>>> >> today.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Thanks,
>>>> >> Alissa
>>>> >>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Best regards,
>>>>> >>> Jean-Jacques.
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> ----- Mail original -----
>>>>> >>> De: "Alissa Cooper" <alissa at cooperw.in>
>>>>> >>> À: "ICG" <internal-cg at icann.org>
>>>>> >>> Envoyé: Lundi 11 Août 2014 17:24:34
>>>>> >>> Objet: Re: [Internal-cg] Chairing - way forward
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Reminder: People who wish to volunteer for a chair role need to do so
>>>>> >>> by
>>>>> >>> 23:59 UTC today, Aug 11. I believe the current list of volunteers is
as
>>>>> >>> follows:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Wolf-Ulrich Knoben
>>>>> >>> Patrik Fälström
>>>>> >>> Mohamed El Bashir
>>>>> >>> Alissa Cooper
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> Thanks,
>>>>> >>> Alissa
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> On 8/7/14, 10:57 AM, "Alissa Cooper" <alissa at cooperw.in> wrote:
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>>> >>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Thanks to everyone for engaging on the topic of chair structure.
>>>>>> >>>> Taking in all of the in-person and email discussion thus far, I
>>>>>> think
>>>>>> >>>> we have a viable path forward. My observations are:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> 1. In response to the compromise I suggested on July 31 [i], the
>>>>>> group
>>>>>> >>>> demonstrated broad support for a 1+2 structure, with an objection
from
>>>>>> >>>> Jean-Jacques and ALAC. This included support from people who had
>>>>>> >>>> previously stated preferences for other structures, and even support
>>>>>> >>>> from people who had previously said they could not live with 1+2.
This
>>>>>> >>>> is what some people might call “consensus” and what I would normally
>>>>>> >>>> describe as “rough consensus” in support of 1+2.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> 2. We have very strong support for a “1+something” chair structure,
>>>>>> >>>> following the recent mail from Jean-Jacques [ii]. I don’t think we
>>>>>> >>>> have anyone objecting to 1+something at this point.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> 3. We have had lengthy discussions on the list about geographic
>>>>>> >>>> diversity. We have very strong support in the group for having
>>>>>> >>>> geographically diverse participation throughout the stewardship
>>>>>> >>>> transition plan development process. We have differences of opinion
>>>>>> >>>> within the group about the extent to which that diversity must be
>>>>>> >>>> required to extend to the chairs of the ICG.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> 4. We have a demonstrated need to agree within the ICG about the
>>>>>> >>>> methods, both electronic and in-person, that we will use to arrive
at
>>>>>> >>>> and judge consensus within this group going forward.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Taking the above into consideration, let's proceed as follows:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Go forward with a 1+2 structure — 1 chair and 2 vice-chairs. I
>>>>>> believe
>>>>>> >>>> the current list of people who have volunteered to serve in these
>>>>>> >>>> roles
>>>>>> >>>> is:
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Russ Housley
>>>>>> >>>> Patrik Fälström
>>>>>> >>>> Mohamed El Bashir
>>>>>> >>>> Keith Drazek
>>>>>> >>>> Alissa Cooper
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> (I do not think we need re-confirmations from the above people
>>>>>> because
>>>>>> >>>> they have mostly re-confirmed already on the list at some point over
>>>>>> >>>> the last several weeks, but if any of the above listed people wants
to
>>>>>> >>>> withdraw, please say so.)
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Taking the suggestion from Jean-Jacques, I think we should give
>>>>>> people
>>>>>> >>>> a few more days to volunteer. So if you would like to volunteer,
>>>>>> >>>> please make that known on the list by August 11, 23:59 UTC.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> On August 12, Joe, who previously agreed to detail the chair roles
and
>>>>>> >>>> run the selection process [iii], and Wolf-Ulrich, who has agreed to
>>>>>> >>>> help Joe while Joe is traveling, will launch the selection process.
In
>>>>>> >>>> making their selections, ICG participants should take the geographic
>>>>>> >>>> diversity discussions we’ve had into account.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Joe and Wolf-Ulrich will also begin drafting a proposal that
>>>>>> describes
>>>>>> >>>> the methods the group will use for arriving at and judging consensus
>>>>>> >>>> going forward, and will make that proposal available to the group
for
>>>>>> >>>> discussion when it is ready.
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> >>>> Alissa
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> [i] http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-July/000582.html
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> [ii] 
>>>>>> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-August/000769.html
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>> [iii] 
>>>>>> http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/internal-cg/2014-July/000381.html
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>> >>>>
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