[ioepanel] Strategy Panel on ICANN's Role in Internet Governance Ecosystem

[pindar wong]

Yup... understood. That's a very vaild point that principles stand or fall
over details how their are stewarded.

I guess my point is that we have to start from 1st principles -- such as a
statement of principles, against which all else may be both self-referenced
and externally referenced.

Clearly hypocrisy can take many forms, but if there is a modicum of
transparency and openness, then the difference between practice and theory
will be publicly evident -- and therein lies a world of difference.

Cheers,

p.



On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <
apisan at unam.mx> wrote:

>  Pindar,
>
>  this is one more of this things that sound good till tested, gamed, and
> obliterated. Like privacy statements on websites, or the small letters in
> software licenses.
>
>  Do note also the ITU's definition of its being multistakeholder (as one
> example.)
>
>  Compliance mechanisms, auditing, opportunities for decision appeal,
> reversal and redress... now that's another level but also another level of
> cost. Witness ATRT (1, 2, and who knows what's next.)
>
>  Yours,
>
>  Alejandro Pisanty
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> *Enviado el:* lunes, 18 de noviembre de 2013 17:32
> *Hasta:* ioepanel at icann.org
> *CC:* ecosystem-panel at icann.org
> *Asunto:* Re: Strategy Panel on ICANN's Role in Internet Governance
> Ecosystem [ioepanel]
>
>   Greetings,
>
> Perhaps a 'Public Statement of Principles' is itself a  principle that
> should be considered for institutions that claim to have public interest
> objectives in the Internet Governance Ecosystem.
>
>  p.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 4:53 AM, Carlton Samuels <
> carlton.samuels at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  Thanks for sharing Debbie. Much obliged.
>> I note that NZ has institutional objectives anchored in principles.  Nice.
>>
>>  -Carlton
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>>   On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 1:06 PM, Debbie Monahan <dnc at dnc.org.nz> wrote:
>>
>>>  The InternetNZ Group has also documented its principles.  There is one
>>> document of Policy Principles and another of Top Level Domains Principles.
>>>
>>>  https://internetnz.net.nz/principles
>>>
>>>  Cheers
>>> Debbie
>>>
>>>  On 19/11/2013, at 6:51 AM, Hartmut Richard Glaser <glaser at cgi.br>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Brazilian Principles for the Governance and use of the Internet
>>>
>>> http://www.cgi.br/regulamentacao/pdf/resolucao-2009-003-pt-en-es.pdf
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