[RDS-WHOIS2-Safeguard] Draft Safeguard Report

Wed May 30 15:22:21 UTC 2018

Good idea.  Alan
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On May 30, 2018 11:15:04 AM EDT, Volker Greimann <vgreimann at key-systems.net> wrote:
>Ah, then I understand. We registrars usually only apply it to the data 
>of the registrant himself in our common parlance. Maybe we should 
>clarify that.
>
>Volker
>
>
>Am 30.05.2018 um 16:24 schrieb Alan Greenberg:
>> Hi Volker, My interpretation of "Registrant Data" is "the data 
>> provided by the registrant", and therefore includes the tech and
>admin 
>> contacts.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> At 30/05/2018 08:09 AM, Volker Greimann wrote:
>>
>>> Ah, one further add:
>>>
>>> The subgroup is misnamed when it considers only the safeguarding of 
>>> registrant data, as there is also the security of the data of the 
>>> tech and admin contacts to consider (at least as long as ICANN 
>>> considers to cling to these outdated any often superflous data 
>>> points). We may want to point out that other contact data should be 
>>> treated in an equivalent manner.
>>>
>>> Volker
>>>
>>> Am 30.05.2018 um 14:07 schrieb Volker Greimann:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Alan,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for this, I have reviewed and have a few comments.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the recommendation, I feel this is going a bit far. 
>>>> Instead of asking ICANN to be descriptive and determine specific 
>>>> requirements to be placed on contracted parties, I would much
>rather 
>>>> see the application of gnerally accepted basic principles regarding
>
>>>> to protection of data applied on the ICANN level. For example, the 
>>>> GDPR merely requires reasonable protection of data. Drawing on Art 
>>>> 32 GDPR, we should rather recommend that appropriate technical and 
>>>> organisational measures to ensure a level of security appropriate 
>>>> vis-a-vis the identified risks should be required of contracted 
>>>> parties to safeguard the relevant data. This has the added charm 
>>>> that most contracted parties have already made the required 
>>>> adjustments anyway as part of their GDPR readiness planning and 
>>>> ICANN does not need to take on an additional regulatory function as
>
>>>> this is already handled by DPAs.
>>>>
>>>> So I am suggesting that the GDPR already did the work that this 
>>>> recommendation was intended to cover for most contracted parties.
>>>>
>>>> Volker
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Am 28.05.2018 um 06:30 schrieb Alan Greenberg:
>>>>> Team, please find attached v3 of the Safeguard report. If you
>could 
>>>>> review and make comments by next Friday, that will allow me to 
>>>>> revise and discuss on the following Monday's plenary call.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
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>Volker A. Greimann
>- Rechtsabteilung -
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>Key-Systems GmbH
>Im Oberen Werk 1
>66386 St. Ingbert
>Tel.: +49 (0) 6894 - 9396 901
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