[UA-discuss] Spam filtering: the next hurdle for EAI?

Jordyn Buchanan jordyn at google.com
Fri Apr 13 16:52:53 UTC 2018


On Fri, Apr 13, 2018 at 12:29 PM Andre Schappo <A.Schappo at lboro.ac.uk>
wrote:

>
>
> > On 13 Apr 2018, at 16:27, Vittorio Bertola <
> vittorio.bertola at open-xchange.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >> Il 13 aprile 2018 alle 17.12 Andre Schappo <A.Schappo at lboro.ac.uk> ha
> scritto:
> >>
> >>
> >> I have been exchanging email with some EAI interested people using my
> EAI addresses and spam filtering systems are now causing problems, as
> follows:
> >>
> >> ① I emailed (as a reply to his initial email) a hotmail user with my
> DataMail 小山@电邮.在线
> >>
> >> My email goes to his junk folder. He then marked my email as "not
> junk". I then sent another email and it still went to his junk folder.
> >>
> >> ② I emailed (as a reply to his initial email) a gmail user with my
> Coremail 小山@互联网.网络
> >>
> >> This time my email did not get to the recipient. Gmail rejected my
> email claiming "Our system has detected that this message is likely
> unsolicited mail. To reduce the amount of spam sent to Gmail, this message
> has been blocked".
> >
> > On another busy list devoted to mail system operators, a person from IBM
> just asked "how much support is there for UTF-8 in email headers?" and
> someone replied "it's a great spam indicator". It looks like several
> sysadmins in the US really believe that :-( Did you try to ping people at
> Gmail/Hotmail over this?
>
> No I have not because I have no idea who to contact.
>
> Some people from Microsoft are on this list so I am hoping they will
> investigate this issue. I do not know if there is anyone from Google is on
> this list.
>

I'm on this list.  :-)

Can you forward me the GMail rejection with full headers?

Thanks,

Jordyn


>
> It is rather concerning to think that utf8 in email headers is being used
> to mark email as (potential) spam or even being part of a spam detection
> algorithm/ruleset.
>
> André
>
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> >
> > Vittorio Bertola | Head of Policy & Innovation, Open-Xchange
> > vittorio.bertola at open-xchange.com
> > Office @ Via Treviso 12, 10144 Torino, Italy
>
>
>
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