[IAG-WHOIS conflicts] Discussion paper for 1 April 2015 meeting

[Stephanie Perrin]

Indeed, that is certainly what I think.  Perhaps that requires 
revisiting the policy, which is, after all, ten years old?
Stephanie Perrin

On 2015-03-30 18:00, Christopher Wilkinson wrote:
> Jamie:One should understand that one is not looking for a 'trigger' 
> atall.
> Rather, for spontaneous conformance, by ICANN, to applicable law.
>
> CW
>
>
> On 30 Mar 2015, at 21:49, Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org 
> <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org>> wrote:
>
>> Christopher,
>>
>> Thanks and understood. Before there can be consensus on “Block 
>> exemption by jurisdiction” it would seem that the IAG would first 
>> need to agree on what can trigger a request for an exemption. When 
>> that discussion is exhausted it would make sense to discuss your 
>> proposal. Thanks.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jamie
>>
>> Jamie Hedlund
>> VP, Strategic Programs
>> Global Domains Division
>> ICANN
>> +1.202.374.3969 (m)
>> +1.202.570.7125 (d)
>> jamie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org>
>>
>> From: Christopher Wilkinson <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu 
>> <mailto:cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>>
>> Date: Monday, March 30, 2015 at 3:34 PM
>> To: Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org 
>> <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org>>
>> Cc: "whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org 
>> <mailto:whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org>" 
>> <whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org <mailto:whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [IAG-WHOIS conflicts] Discussion paper for 1 April 2015 
>> meeting
>>
>> Dear Jamie:
>>
>> Thankyou. Noted. I suggest we take AOB first on the agenda, in case 
>> anyone needs to leave the call early.
>>
>> Best regards
>>
>> CW
>>
>>
>> On 30 Mar 2015, at 21:09, Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org 
>> <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org>> wrote:
>>
>>> Christopher and Stephanie,
>>>
>>> We can discuss your proposed topics under AOB at the end of the 
>>> meeting. Thanks.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jamie
>>>
>>> Jamie Hedlund
>>> VP, Strategic Programs
>>> Global Domains Division
>>> ICANN
>>> +1.202.374.3969 (m)
>>> +1.202.570.7125 (d)
>>> jamie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org>
>>>
>>> From: Christopher Wilkinson <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu 
>>> <mailto:cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>>
>>> Date: Monday, March 30, 2015 at 1:55 PM
>>> To: Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org 
>>> <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org>>
>>> Cc: "whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org 
>>> <mailto:whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org>" 
>>> <whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org <mailto:whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: [IAG-WHOIS conflicts] Discussion paper for 1 April 2015 
>>> meeting
>>>
>>> Thankyou, Jamie. Please add to the agenda the 'Block Exemption by 
>>> jurisdiction' option as suggested below.
>>>
>>> Many thanks and regards to you all
>>>
>>> Christopher
>>>
>>> PS: In the Discussion Paper, the Links to Policy, GNSO Policy and 
>>> Procedure, are not active in the copy received.
>>> Could you please forward the corresponding URLs.
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>>> *From: *Christopher Wilkinson <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu 
>>>> <mailto:cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>>
>>>> *Subject: **Re: [IAG-WHOIS conflicts] Agenda and Draft Redline and 
>>>> Notes*
>>>> *Date: *15 Mar 2015 20:58:27 GMT+01:00
>>>> *To: *"whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org 
>>>> <mailto:whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org>" 
>>>> <whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org 
>>>> <mailto:whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org>>
>>>> *Cc: *Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca 
>>>> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>
>>>>
>>>> Good evening:
>>>>
>>>> Thankyou, Stephanie, for these interesting observations, with which 
>>>> I largely concur. I am also not a lawyer, but as a long-standing 
>>>> participant in ICANN processes, may I observe that these matters 
>>>> have been under discussion for nigh on fifteen years.
>>>>
>>>> 1.There is no call for any further public consultation and delay. 
>>>> That has been done. All the relevant information is already available:
>>>> either through past consultation and communication, or through a 
>>>> review of applicable laws.
>>>>
>>>> 2.The primary objective should be for ICANN to align its privacy 
>>>> policy on global best practice. That is not the case today.
>>>>
>>>> 3.Failing which, and meanwhile, ICANN should institute 
>>>> 'block-exemptions' to allow Registries and Registrars to 
>>>> automatically conform /a priori/ - in their accreditation contracts 
>>>> -  to the privacy laws of their jurisdiction.
>>>> Obviously it is unnecessary and undesirable to attempt to customise 
>>>> case-by-case each accreditation agreement, whereas the generally 
>>>> applicable privacy laws are already known.
>>>> The costs of such customisation to ICANN and to the Registries and 
>>>> Registrars concerned are unjustified.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards
>>>>
>>>> CW
>>>
>>> On 30 Mar 2015, at 19:26, Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org 
>>> <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> Attached please find a short paper for the upcoming call. It is 
>>>> intended to spur discussion on whether the trigger could be 
>>>> modified so long as adequate verification requirements were in 
>>>> place. The paper follows on from contributions to the discussions 
>>>> to date. This is the only proposed agenda item. Based on how the 
>>>> call goes, we can spend the last 10 minutes or so discussing next 
>>>> steps.  If anyone would like to add anything to the agenda please 
>>>> let me know. Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Jamie
>>>>
>>>> Jamie Hedlund
>>>> VP, Strategic Programs
>>>> Global Domains Division
>>>> ICANN
>>>> +1.202.374.3969 (m)
>>>> +1.202.570.7125 (d)
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