[IAG-WHOIS conflicts] Discussion paper for 1 April 2015 meeting

Tue Mar 31 12:16:10 UTC 2015

Thanks again, Christopher. There is of course no limit to what the IAG may
discuss but there is a limit as to what the IAG may do. What you seem to
advocate is not a change in the procedure (within the IAG¹s mandate) but a
change in the policy (beyond the IAG¹s mandate). While the IAG could
recommend that the GNSO revisit the underlying policy, the IAG does not have
the authority to change it. Please let me know if that¹s not clear. Thanks.

Best,
Jamie

Jamie Hedlund
VP, Strategic Programs
Global Domains Division
ICANN
+1.202.374.3969 (m)
+1.202.570.7125 (d)
jamie.hedlund at icann.org

From:  Christopher Wilkinson <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>
Date:  Tuesday, March 31, 2015 at 3:49 AM
To:  Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org>
Cc:  "whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org" <whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org>
Subject:  Re: [IAG-WHOIS conflicts] Discussion paper for 1 April 2015
meeting

Dear Jamie:

Thankyou. I see in the mission and scope:

<<As part of its deliberations, the IAG should, at a minimum, consider the
following issues that were highlighted in the recent Report of Public
Comments on this topic. Š etc.>>

I suggest that this gives the IAG-WHOIS enough scope to address some of the
real issues in addition to the specific points that have been identified to
date in that document.

Regards

CW

On 31 Mar 2015, at 00:21, Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org> wrote:

> Thanks, Christopher. Kindly refer to the mission and scope for a description
> of this IAG's mandate.
> 
> Best,
> Jamie
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 30, 2015, at 6:00 PM, Christopher Wilkinson
> <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu> wrote:
> 
>> Jamie: One should understand that one is not looking for a 'trigger' atall.
>> Rather, for spontaneous conformance, by ICANN, to applicable law.
>> 
>> CW
>> 
>> 
>> On 30 Mar 2015, at 21:49, Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> Christopher,
>>> 
>>> Thanks and understood. Before there can be consensus on ³Block exemption by
>>> jurisdiction² it would seem that the IAG would first need to agree on what
>>> can trigger a request for an exemption. When that discussion is exhausted it
>>> would make sense to discuss your proposal. Thanks.
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> Jamie
>>> 
>>> Jamie Hedlund
>>> VP, Strategic Programs
>>> Global Domains Division
>>> ICANN
>>> +1.202.374.3969 (m)
>>> +1.202.570.7125 (d)
>>> jamie.hedlund at icann.org
>>> 
>>> From: Christopher Wilkinson <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>
>>> Date: Monday, March 30, 2015 at 3:34 PM
>>> To: Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org>
>>> Cc: "whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org" <whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [IAG-WHOIS conflicts] Discussion paper for 1 April 2015 meeting
>>> 
>>> Dear Jamie: 
>>> 
>>> Thankyou. Noted. I suggest we take AOB first on the agenda, in case anyone
>>> needs to leave the call early.
>>> 
>>> Best regards
>>> 
>>> CW
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 30 Mar 2015, at 21:09, Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Christopher and Stephanie,
>>>> 
>>>> We can discuss your proposed topics under AOB at the end of the meeting.
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> Jamie
>>>> 
>>>> Jamie Hedlund
>>>> VP, Strategic Programs
>>>> Global Domains Division
>>>> ICANN
>>>> +1.202.374.3969 (m)
>>>> +1.202.570.7125 (d)
>>>> jamie.hedlund at icann.org
>>>> 
>>>> From: Christopher Wilkinson <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>
>>>> Date: Monday, March 30, 2015 at 1:55 PM
>>>> To: Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org>
>>>> Cc: "whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org" <whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [IAG-WHOIS conflicts] Discussion paper for 1 April 2015
>>>> meeting
>>>> 
>>>> Thankyou, Jamie. Please add to the agenda the 'Block Exemption by
>>>> jurisdiction' option as suggested below.
>>>> 
>>>> Many thanks and regards to you all
>>>> 
>>>> Christopher
>>>> 
>>>> PS:  In the Discussion Paper, the Links to Policy, GNSO Policy and
>>>> Procedure, are not active in the copy received.
>>>> Could you please forward the corresponding URLs.
>>>> 
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> 
>>>>> From: Christopher Wilkinson <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [IAG-WHOIS conflicts] Agenda and Draft Redline and Notes
>>>>> Date: 15 Mar 2015 20:58:27 GMT+01:00
>>>>> To: "whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org" <whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org>
>>>>> Cc: Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Good evening:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thankyou, Stephanie, for these interesting observations, with which I
>>>>> largely concur. I am also not a lawyer, but as a long-standing participant
>>>>> in ICANN processes, may I observe that these matters have been under
>>>>> discussion for nigh on fifteen years.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. There is no call for any further public consultation and delay. That
>>>>> has been done. All the relevant information is already available:
>>>>>   either through past consultation and communication, or through a review
>>>>> of applicable laws.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. The primary objective should be for ICANN to align its privacy policy
>>>>> on global best practice. That is not the case today.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3. Failing which, and meanwhile, ICANN should institute 'block-exemptions'
>>>>> to allow Registries and Registrars to automatically conform a priori - in
>>>>> their accreditation contracts -  to the privacy laws of their
>>>>> jurisdiction.
>>>>> Obviously it is unnecessary and undesirable to attempt to customise
>>>>> case-by-case each accreditation agreement, whereas the generally
>>>>> applicable privacy laws are already known.
>>>>> The costs of such customisation to ICANN and to the Registries and
>>>>> Registrars concerned are unjustified.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> CW
>>>> 
>>>> On 30 Mar 2015, at 19:26, Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> All,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Attached please find a short paper for the upcoming call. It is intended
>>>>> to spur discussion on whether the trigger could be modified so long as
>>>>> adequate verification requirements were in place. The paper follows on
>>>>> from contributions to the discussions to date. This is the only proposed
>>>>> agenda item. Based on how the call goes, we can spend the last 10 minutes
>>>>> or so discussing next steps.  If anyone would like to add anything to the
>>>>> agenda please let me know. Thanks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Jamie
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jamie Hedlund
>>>>> VP, Strategic Programs
>>>>> Global Domains Division
>>>>> ICANN
>>>>> +1.202.374.3969 (m)
>>>>> +1.202.570.7125 (d)
>>>>> jamie.hedlund at icann.org
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