[IAG-WHOIS conflicts] Draft preliminary report

Stephanie Perrin stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca
Fri Sep 18 22:38:52 UTC 2015


I will try to get it in this evening, it will be after midnight though, 
is that ok?
Thanks!
Stephanie Perrin

On 2015-09-18 9:10, Jamie Hedlund wrote:
> All,
>
> Thank you for the input. We need to figure out how to include other 
> views without confusing the community as to which text has overall 
> support from the IAG. One way to do this would be to include an 
> appendix entitled “Other IAG member views” and then include each 
> statement in the appendix. For example, Christopher’s Appendix 3 would 
> be inserted in this "Other views” appendix as would Stephanie’s. 
> Christopher’s edits to the body of the report that do not enjoy 
> majority support or conflict with previously expressed views would not 
> be included except to the extent that they appear in the “Other views” 
> appendix. The appendix sections would not be characterized as 
> “minority statements” until a consensus final document is produced, 
> taking into account the public comment.
>
> Does this seem reasonable? If so, Stephanie could you please submit 
> your paper as soon as possible and Christopher, could you please 
> indicate whether you want to add anything from your text edits to your 
> Appendix 3? Thanks.
>
> Best,
> Jamie
>
> Jamie Hedlund
> VP, Strategic Programs
> Global Domains Division
> ICANN
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> jamie.hedlund at icann.org
>
> From: <whois-iag-volunteers-bounces at icann.org 
> <mailto:whois-iag-volunteers-bounces at icann.org>> on behalf of 
> Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca 
> <mailto:stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca>>
> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 19:12
> To: "whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org 
> <mailto:whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org>" 
> <whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org <mailto:whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org>>
> Subject: Re: [IAG-WHOIS conflicts] Draft preliminary report
>
> My apologies for not getting my comments in by now. I have been 
> preoccupied with the birth of my first grandchild, and while I am 
> dedicated to ICANN this has not been top of mind.  Can you tell me 
> what the deadline is for receiving a statement from me, which might be 
> an appendix or a stakeholder view or a minority report.  Frankly my 
> priority is to have it included, although I  do have sympathy for 
> Chris's position re voting and minority views.
> Kind regards, Stephanie Perrin
>
> On 2015-09-17 14:37, Jamie Hedlund wrote:
>> Thank you, Allen.
>>
>> In light of the extensive edits, please review and indicate whether 
>> you have any concerns or objections. Thank you.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jamie
>>
>> Jamie Hedlund
>> VP, Strategic Programs
>> Global Domains Division
>> ICANN
>> +1.202.374.3969 (m)
>> +1.202.570.7125 (d)
>> jamie.hedlund at icann.org
>>
>> From: Allen Grogan <allen.grogan at icann.org>
>> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 14:31
>> To: Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org>, Christopher Wilkinson 
>> <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu <mailto:cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>>
>> Cc: "whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org" <whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org 
>> <mailto:whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [IAG-WHOIS conflicts] Draft preliminary report
>>
>> Can't guarantee the accuracy, but I believe the attached redline 
>> reflects the changes proposed by Christopher.  Note that some 
>> language consisting of hyperlinks in the original document shows up 
>> here in blue (meaning it looks like it is a change to the document 
>> even though it isn't).
>>
>> Regards,
>>
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>> From: <whois-iag-volunteers-bounces at icann.org> on behalf of Jamie 
>> Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org>>
>> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2015 11:14 AM
>> To: Christopher Wilkinson <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu 
>> <mailto:cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>>
>> Cc: "whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org" <whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org 
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>> Subject: Re: [IAG-WHOIS conflicts] Draft preliminary report
>>
>> Christopher,
>>
>> I will do my best to identify your changes.
>>
>> Regarding your Appendix 3 and other requests to provide a minority 
>> statement, it does not seem appropriate to include these in a 
>> document on which public comment is sought. Rather, minority 
>> statements are incorporated into final reports. At that point, public 
>> comments have been considered and the group has identified where 
>> there is consensus. It would be appropriate for minority views to be 
>> submitted as public comment. If, after taking into account the 
>> universe of public comments, these views do not generate consensus 
>> support, they would be ripe for attachment to the final report as 
>> minority statements.
>>
>> Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns with this 
>> approach. Thank you.
>>
>> Best,
>> Jamie
>>
>> Jamie Hedlund
>> VP, Strategic Programs
>> Global Domains Division
>> ICANN
>> +1.202.374.3969 (m)
>> +1.202.570.7125 (d)
>> jamie.hedlund at icann.org
>>
>> From: Christopher Wilkinson <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu 
>> <mailto:cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>>
>> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 14:00
>> To: Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org 
>> <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org>>
>> Cc: "whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org" <whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org 
>> <mailto:whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [IAG-WHOIS conflicts] Draft preliminary report
>>
>> No, Jamie, there are a number of amendments and additions in the body 
>> of the text.
>>
>> Since your version is in .docx and my edits are in .odt, track 
>> changes does not seem to work.
>> (I do not know how to do 'red-lining')
>>
>> I suggest that if you do a 'compare documents' you will get the changes.
>>
>> Otherwise: Search for 'N.B.'  and for 'applicable'' and you will get 
>> most of them.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> CW
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 17 Sep 2015, at 19:50, Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org 
>> <mailto:jamie.hedlund at icann.org>> wrote:
>>
>>> Christopher,
>>>
>>> Thank you. Could you please confirm that the only change you made to 
>>> the base text was the addition of Appendix 3? Since the document is 
>>> not redlined I wanted to make sure we captured your proposed edits. 
>>> Thanks again.
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> Jamie
>>>
>>> Jamie Hedlund
>>> VP, Strategic Programs
>>> Global Domains Division
>>> ICANN
>>> +1.202.374.3969 (m)
>>> +1.202.570.7125 (d)
>>> jamie.hedlund at icann.org
>>>
>>> From: Christopher Wilkinson <cw at christopherwilkinson.eu>
>>> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 13:24
>>> To: Jamie Hedlund <jamie.hedlund at icann.org>
>>> Cc: "whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org" <whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org 
>>> <mailto:whois-iag-volunteers at icann.org>>
>>> Subject: Re: [IAG-WHOIS conflicts] Draft preliminary report
>>>
>>> Good evening:
>>>
>>> Please find attached my edits to the draft preliminary report.
>>>
>>> With many thanks for your attention
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Christopher Wilkinson
>>>
>>
>>
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