[WP1] FW: SV: [CCWG-ACCT] Article

Sat Apr 18 19:32:42 UTC 2015

Dear All,
Its good to see like-minds building a direction for making the right choice
and paving way to process and procedure.

I once served as ccTLD Manager and currently seat on the Executive Board of
Directors. I also belong to a few NGOs in my continent.
However, the lack of interest, inadequate infrastructures and information,
coupled with the cost to access, i was co-opted to write an lead DNS Africa
Magazine, first free Magazine educating and informing about the DNS World.

While we believe that information should be free and credit must be given,
permit me to share a write-up on IANA and the work we are doing as whole
with Africans.

My question?
Should i send to this list on ''Article''?
I believe like Lisse advised, one can even get submission that are
impeccable.

-Akinbo

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Roelof Meijer <Roelof.Meijer at sidn.nl>
wrote:

>   Dear all,
>
>  As I sent my email to the lists, I thought it better to do the same with
> the response. Just so you know.
>
>  Best,
>
>  Roelof
>
>   From: Kieren McCarthy <kierenmccarthy at gmail.com>
> Date: vrijdag 17 april 2015 16:25
> To: Julia Katja Wolman <jukacz at erst.dk>
> Cc: Mathieu Weill <mathieu.weill at afnic.fr>, Roelof Meijer <
> roelof.meijer at sidn.nl>, Finn Petersen <finpet at erst.dk>, "Torsten A.
> Andersen" <torand at erst.dk>
> Subject: Re: SV: [CCWG-ACCT] [WP1] Article
>
>   Hello all,
>
>  So to your initial point Roelof, it is a publicly available list and I
> think there is no expectation of confidentiality in postings so I don't
> feel there is anything wrong in quoting people so long as it accurately
> reflects what people said.
>
>  That said of course I don't wish in any way to make you uncomfortable
> and if I had thought it would have I would have course contacted you. So I
> can only apologize and make it clear that I've heard your point.
>
>  Re my involvement in this list and others. It is most certainly not "as
> a journalist" because there is rarely anything newsworthy. It's as someone
> that has followed ICANN closely for over a decade and wants too help
> improve it.
>
>  But that said I do intend to occasionally write articles about the
> process. And I think that's a good thing and is also a help to the process
> itself.
>
>  That said those articles don't tend to quote from the mailing lists but
> give an overview. In this case, with people  complaining about the
> workload, it made obvious sense to say what people were saying.
>
>  To Mathieu's point about participation, I wasn't aware of the graph and
> would be happy to update the article if you wish.
>
>  And in fact my main concern was not this main mailing list but all the
> sub groups and in particular the other stewardship thread. I have noticed a
> big drop off in mailing list participants - people actually commenting.
>
>  And in conversations with people recently, almost all of them have said
> they've stopped reading most of the posts; some have just given up on
> following the process and are waiting for the comment periods.
>
>  I've not seen this discussed anywhere so my point in the article was
> that people are so caught up with the work that they're losing track of
> what's going on more broadly.
>
>  Anyway I hope this explains where I'm coming from.
>
>  I do hope you all realize that I have nothing but respect for you and
> the work you are doing.
>
>
>  Kieren
>
>
>
>
> -
> [sent through phone]
>
>
>  On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 5:46 AM, Julia Katja Wolman <jukacz at erst.dk>
> wrote:
>
>>  Thank you Roelof for sending this interesting article and Mathieu for
>> the illustrative graph.
>>
>>   As DK is mentioned in this article, I would like to take the
>> opportunity to clarify a little: We do believe that it is a challenging
>> time line that we are working with, however, we also understand the need to
>> keep momentum in our work – the CWG is dependent on it. Under these
>> circumstances it becomes even more important that documents under
>> discussion are easily available and accessible to all (also to people
>> outside the CCWG). That was what I asked for in my initial comment.
>> Everyone interested should be able to follow our work.
>>
>>
>>
>>   Again, thanks to all involved for the hard work.
>>
>>   Wishing you all a good weekend.
>>
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>>   Julia
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
>>  *Fra:* accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org [
>> mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org
>> <accountability-cross-community-bounces at icann.org>] *På vegne af *Mathieu
>> Weill
>> *Sendt:* 17. april 2015 11:11
>> *Til:* Roelof Meijer; Kieren McCarthy
>> *Cc:* accountability-cross-community at icann.org
>> *Emne:* Re: [CCWG-ACCT] [WP1] Article
>>
>>
>>
>> Dear Colleagues,
>>
>> Thanks Roelof for drawing our attention to this article.
>>
>> One sentence drew my attention :
>>
>>  the number of active participants has dropped to dangerously low
>> levels. Levels that no one is monitoring because all those remaining in the
>> process are too overwhelmed with work.
>>
>> While the sentence is not specifically targetting the CCWG, as you know
>> staff keeps track of participation on a regular basis. With Brenda and
>> Alice's help I can confirm that participation to CCWG calls remains
>> consistently around 50. Below is a quick graph to illustrate this.
>>
>>  <image001.png>
>>
>>
>> Best
>> Mathieu
>>
>>  Le 17/04/2015 09:48, Roelof Meijer a écrit :
>>
>>   Kieren,
>>
>>
>>
>>  I came across your article in The Register:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/04/15/internet_kingmakers_cry_mercy_over_crazed_work_schedule
>>
>>
>>
>>  It surprises me (or maybe it doesn't) that you quote me, without
>> showing the courtesy of at least informing me beforehand.
>>
>>  Additionally, I wonder if you have announced to us all that you are
>> participating in the CCWG as a journalist. I am not aware of that, but
>> might have missed something.
>>
>>
>>
>>  Roelof Meijer
>>
>>
>>
>>
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