[WP1] Budget

[Asha Hemrajani]

Hi Jordan

Just to be clear:
1. We are now talking about veto of the annual operating plan and annual
budget, which is extremely time sensitiveŠnot about the veto of the 5 year
strat or op plan.
2. With all due respect Jordan, ³all that would happen is that the previous
year¹s budget would roll over² will not work ­ what about new community
projects and expenses that did not exist in the previous year? What if the
number of staff was different (higher), would we say, let¹s not pay the
additional staff?  What if the meeting venues happen to be in more expensive
countries, how could we use the previous year¹s budget to pay the venue
operators?   
3. Please note, this is very different from the case of the IANA budget.
Cherine¹s proposal states very clearly that fallback to the previous year¹s
IANA budget would be acceptable.
I want to quote Cherine to re-emphasize my previous points: "The best way to
empower the community is to enshrine in the Bylaws a community input process
and a consultation process into the  development of the Annual Operating
Plan and Budget, as well as the power to Veto any deviation from the
approved Operating Plan and Budget that are inconsistent with the Strategic
Plan and the Mission.  Remember that the community will have the power to
remove individual Directors or recall the entire Board. This is the ultimate
power compared to just freezing a number and creating chaos for everyone;
community included.²

Asha



From:  Jordan Carter <jordan at internetnz.net.nz>
Date:  Saturday, 10 October 2015 1:30 am
To:  Asha Hemrajani <asha.hemrajani at icann.org>
Cc:  Greg Shatan <gregshatanipc at gmail.com>, "avri at acm.org" <avri at acm.org>,
"wp1 at icann.org" <wp1 at icann.org>
Subject:  Re: [WP1] Budget

Hi Asha,

On 10 October 2015 at 06:28, Asha Hemrajani <asha.hemrajani at icann.org>
wrote:
> Hi Jordan, Greg and Jonathan
> 
> <snip> 
> Jordan/Greg/Jonathan ­ I hear where you are coming from re veto being a last
> resort.  Speaking on my own behalf, I am not commenting on vetos on other
> itemsŠbut a veto on an annual budget which is so time sensitive and on such a
> short cycle, can be catastrophic fiscally.  I would shudder to think what
> would happen if budget was vetoedŠI would rather work on text to ensure we
> don¹t ever get to that stage.
> 

If the Board persisted in pushing through a budget against all the advice of
the community through all the consultation processes that have been
discussed that led to a veto, and then another one, the Board would be the
making of its own problem. The Board, and nobody else, would be responsible
for whatever damage occurred.

Besides which, no damage would occur. The idea of a catastrophe is a
nonsense. All that would happen is the previous year's budget would roll
over.

Please stop dramatising this.

cheers
Jordan


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